AJ Freibott
This country has grown so fast in the past 10 years, and it’s getting better and better. In general the big cities in mainland China are NOT cleaner.. however some areas are cleaner than others.. With that said, they do have much better public transportation than the US, and many cities are becoming more and more international. The malls and buildings are more modern, bigger, brighter, bolder and interesting to explore. The economy is much more stable than back home in the US. With APP’s like WeChat, Taobao, and Meituan this country is extremely convenient. The housing however is an interesting subject. Everyone lives in giant apartment areas that they call “gardens”. You can find nice ones with a Gym and a Pool but it’s going to cost you serious money. The good news is that Rent is relatively cheap in this country. I mean super cheap, (I live in Chongqing and have a pretty upscale pad next to a fancy mall and pay around $350 a month) I prefer living in a house though and it’s much harder to find that in a big city in China. As great as some of this sounds, there are some con’s. For example, this is a country of high population, it can get a littler overwhelming at times when both walking and driving. During heavy times doing things as simple as taking an elevator or riding a bus can prove to be very inconvenient. It’s not that clean. There are cleaner cities and areas but in general it’s a good rule of thumb to bring Hand Sanitizer and Toilet paper with you everywhere you go. In most cities It’s not uncommon to see lots of stray dogs and cats. Because of the high population there can also be some wealth disparity. It’s not uncommon at all to see some nice new buildings next to old dumpy buildings or building that were never completed. This again depends on where you live. It’s an amazing country rich in culture, and has definitely surpassed the US in many ways. You should definitely take a visit! I love it here.
Lei Liu
I went to SF, LV a couple of times, as other people already elaborated, China city were typically much newer than its US counter part. That’s the reason the city looks so new and all system functional perfectly. Giving another 100 years those system will eventually begin to age.
Even with some of building in Chinese city is newer than it’s US counterpart, I still think US is city in general is more developed. China have such a large population, this means it need super dense metropolitan areas where as US city does not need.
Taking my hometown Chongqing for example, in urban area, every family lives in a apartment belong to a massive 40~50 story building, this is simply unthinkable in US. Even major cities in US may not have 5 million people. But there are a handful of Chinese cities (More than 15) which can reach this number.
Do you think my hometown fellow wants to live in 40~50 floor apartment buildings? No, they want house. No one wants to live in a super dense area. But there are no choice for China city. Every Chinese 2nd tier city have more than 10 million residence. You do not have enough land to build townhouses, so townhouses in China city is very very costly.
With such a large population, public transportation in inevitable. Can you imaging 10 million people all driving private cars, that’s insane.
On the contrary, I think US is de-urbanize. People were moving out of city because it will be more spacious, you can have you own garden and stuff. It already passed the phase of urbanization.
Chris Garcia
The question is loaded and an apples to apples comparison is virtually impossible.
If we talk about megacities such as Beijing, Shanghai and NYC, public transportation is far more developed in China. Violent crime is far lower, but non-violent crime is likely the same, if not higher. The population lives under denser conditions in China than in NYC and although residential buildings in Beijing and Shanghai look beautiful, construction quality is poor. Quality of life is much worse. Housing prices are insane.
A big city in the US would have about a million people. This would be a Chinese second tier or even third tier city by population. Public transportation would still be better than the comparable US city. Housing quality is still dismal in Chinese big cities. Driving conditions are better than in megacities only because of less density. But in general roads and sidewalks are far better in the US as are driving conditions.
Where is quality of life better? It depends on what you value. Education? USA. Security? China. Public transportation? China. Less dense and less stressful living? USA. Affordable housing? USA. Political stability? China. Medical care? Maybe China. Car ownership? USA. Economic stability? Maybe China. …
Alex
Are you kidding? I haven’t been to US, but I have been to Australia before.
In my opinion, Adelaide is more developed than Chinese big cities in most part.
Adelaide(a city of Australia which I lived about half a year) :
It’s easy to find parks in most part of the city, it’s clean and always ready for visitors. In the main road and most park, you can find water faucet which is designed for drink. There are some playground for children which filled with play equipment, it’s free for everyone. The bike road is excellent, and there are several hiking road which is well maintained. There are always equipment designed for disabled person in public area.
Beijing (I lived for more than 5 years) :
There are several big parks in the city, but it may be far from where you live. It’s very very hard to find water faucet for drink, so it’s wise to buy drinking water from store. You can find several playground for children which is behind high walls — it’s build by rich apartment and only for those who live there. There are a lot of cars in bike road, traffic light seems like advice more than order. It’s hard for find thing designed for disabled person, so it’s rare to see them in public area.
Developed city not only means busy road, high buildings, expensive goods in store, but also means a good place for human beings to live. In this way, I insist that cities in China still have a huge distance compare with cities in Australia, not to mention America.
回答一:
This country has grown so fast in the past 10 years, and it’s getting better and better. In general the big cities in mainland China are NOT cleaner.. however some areas are cleaner than others.. With that said, they do have much better public transportation than the US, and many cities are becoming more and more international. The malls and buildings are more modern, bigger, brighter, bolder and interesting to explore. The economy is much more stable than back home in the US. With APP’s like WeChat, Taobao, and Meituan this country is extremely convenient. The housing however is an interesting subject. Everyone lives in giant apartment areas that they call “gardens”. You can find nice ones with a Gym and a Pool but it’s going to cost you serious money. The good news is that Rent is relatively cheap in this country. I mean super cheap, (I live in Chongqing and have a pretty upscale pad next to a fancy mall and pay around $350 a month) I prefer living in a house though and it’s much harder to find that in a big city in China. As great as some of this sounds, there are some con’s. For example, this is a country of high population, it can get a littler overwhelming at times when both walking and driving. During heavy times doing things as simple as taking an elevator or riding a bus can prove to be very inconvenient. It’s not that clean. There are cleaner cities and areas but in general it’s a good rule of thumb to bring Hand Sanitizer and Toilet paper with you everywhere you go. In most cities It’s not uncommon to see lots of stray dogs and cats. Because of the high population there can also be some wealth disparity. It’s not uncommon at all to see some nice new buildings next to old dumpy buildings or building that were never completed. This again depends on where you live. It’s an amazing country rich in culture, and has definitely surpassed the US in many ways. You should definitely take a visit! I love it here.
這個(gè)國家在過去的10年時(shí)間里,發(fā)展得很快,而且越來越好。一般來說,中國大陸的大城市并不是很干凈,但是有些地方會(huì)比其他地方干凈,不過就算這樣,他們的公共交通確實(shí)要比美國城市好得多,而且很多城市也變得越來越國際化。城市里的商場和建筑更加現(xiàn)代化、更大、更亮眼、風(fēng)格更大膽和有趣。有了微信、淘寶、美團(tuán)等應(yīng)用之后,這個(gè)國家的生活非常方便。當(dāng)然,住房是一個(gè)有意思的話題,每個(gè)人都住在他們稱之為“花園(小區(qū))”的巨大公寓區(qū),你可以找到一些不錯(cuò)的健身房和游泳池,但要花很多錢,好消息是這個(gè)國家的房租相對(duì)便宜,我的意思是超級(jí)便宜(我住在重慶,在一家高檔商場旁邊一個(gè)相當(dāng)高檔的公寓,每月大約花350美元),但我更喜歡住在普通房子里(譯注:作者指的應(yīng)該是西方那種郊區(qū)獨(dú)棟的房子),但這在中國的大城市里很難找到。聽起來中國城市很不錯(cuò),但也有一些缺點(diǎn),比如,這是一個(gè)人口眾多的國家,無論是走路還是開車,有時(shí)都會(huì)讓人有點(diǎn)不知所措,在有些時(shí)候,做一些簡單的事情,比如乘電梯或乘公共汽車,都會(huì)很不方便,而且城市不是那么干凈,當(dāng)然了,也有更加清潔的城市和地區(qū),但總的來說,無論你走到哪里,隨身攜帶洗手液和衛(wèi)生紙是一個(gè)很好的經(jīng)驗(yàn)。在大多數(shù)城市里,經(jīng)常會(huì)看到很多流浪狗和貓,由于人口眾多,也可能存在一定的財(cái)富差距。會(huì)看到一些漂亮的新建筑緊挨著舊的建筑或者一直沒有完工的建筑,這毫不稀奇,這就取決于你住在哪里了。這是一個(gè)文化豐富到令人驚嘆的國家,在許多方面絕對(duì)超過了美國。你一定要去看看!我喜歡這里。
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I went to SF, LV a couple of times, as other people already elaborated, China city were typically much newer than its US counter part. That’s the reason the city looks so new and all system functional perfectly. Giving another 100 years those system will eventually begin to age.
Even with some of building in Chinese city is newer than it’s US counterpart, I still think US is city in general is more developed. China have such a large population, this means it need super dense metropolitan areas where as US city does not need.
Taking my hometown Chongqing for example, in urban area, every family lives in a apartment belong to a massive 40~50 story building, this is simply unthinkable in US. Even major cities in US may not have 5 million people. But there are a handful of Chinese cities (More than 15) which can reach this number.
我去過幾次舊金山和洛杉磯,就和其他人說過的那樣,中國的城市,通常要比美國城市更加的新。這就是為什么這些城市看起來很新,而且所有的系統(tǒng)功能都很完美的原因。再過100年時(shí)間,這些系統(tǒng)也最終會(huì)開始老化。
但是,即使中國城市的一些建筑比美國的城市更新,我仍然認(rèn)為美國城市總體上更發(fā)達(dá)。中國人口眾多,這意味著它需要超級(jí)密集的都市區(qū),而這是美國不需要的。
以我的家鄉(xiāng)重慶為例,在城市里,每家每戶都住在一棟40-50層的高樓里面,這在美國是完全不可想象的。即使是美國的大城市,可能也沒有500萬人口。但中國有一把(超過15個(gè))城市的人口數(shù)量達(dá)到了這個(gè)數(shù)字。
With such a large population, public transportation in inevitable. Can you imaging 10 million people all driving private cars, that’s insane.
On the contrary, I think US is de-urbanize. People were moving out of city because it will be more spacious, you can have you own garden and stuff. It already passed the phase of urbanization.
你認(rèn)為我家鄉(xiāng)的人想住在40-50層的公寓樓里嗎?不,他們想要普通的房子,沒有人想住在一個(gè)人口超級(jí)密集的地區(qū),但中國別無選擇。中國每一個(gè)二線城市都有超過1000萬的居民,沒有足夠的土地建造聯(lián)排別墅,所以中國城市的聯(lián)排別墅非常昂貴。
由于人口眾多,發(fā)展公共交通不可避免,你能想象1000萬人都開私家車嗎,這太瘋狂了。
相反,我認(rèn)為美國正在去城市化。人們搬出城市,因?yàn)槌鞘型饷鏁?huì)更寬敞,你可以擁有自己的花園和其他東西,美國已經(jīng)過了城市化階段。
回答三:
The question is loaded and an apples to apples comparison is virtually impossible.
If we talk about megacities such as Beijing, Shanghai and NYC, public transportation is far more developed in China. Violent crime is far lower, but non-violent crime is likely the same, if not higher. The population lives under denser conditions in China than in NYC and although residential buildings in Beijing and Shanghai look beautiful, construction quality is poor. Quality of life is much worse. Housing prices are insane.
這個(gè)問題很復(fù)雜,蘋果對(duì)蘋果的比較幾乎是不可能的。
如果我們談?wù)撓癖本?、上海和紐約這樣的大城市,那在中國公共交通會(huì)要發(fā)達(dá)得多,暴力犯罪率也要低得多,但非暴力犯罪率,中國就算不比美國高,也差不多。與紐約相比,中國的城市人口居住更為密集,盡管北京和上海的住宅建筑看起來很漂亮,但建筑質(zhì)量卻很差,生活質(zhì)量差得多,房價(jià)也很瘋狂。
Where is quality of life better? It depends on what you value. Education? USA. Security? China. Public transportation? China. Less dense and less stressful living? USA. Affordable housing? USA. Political stability? China. Medical care? Maybe China. Car ownership? USA. Economic stability? Maybe China. …
美國一個(gè)大城市大約有一百萬人口,按人口計(jì)算,這只相當(dāng)于一個(gè)中國的二線甚至是三線城市,但這樣的中國城市,公共交通仍然會(huì)比美國城市好。中國(二三線)大城市的住房質(zhì)量仍然很差,但因?yàn)槿丝诿芏龋ㄏ鄬?duì)一線城市)較低,駕駛條件會(huì)比超大城市要好。但總體而言,美國的道路、人行道以及駕駛條件要好得多。
哪里的生活質(zhì)量更好?這取決于你看重什么。教育?那就是美國。安全?那就是中國。公共交通?一樣是中國。人口更少更小的生活壓力?選美國。政治穩(wěn)定?中國!醫(yī)療保健?也許是中國。汽車擁有量?美國!經(jīng)濟(jì)穩(wěn)定?也許是中國.......
回答四:
Are you kidding? I haven’t been to US, but I have been to Australia before.
In my opinion, Adelaide is more developed than Chinese big cities in most part.
Adelaide(a city of Australia which I lived about half a year) :
It’s easy to find parks in most part of the city, it’s clean and always ready for visitors. In the main road and most park, you can find water faucet which is designed for drink. There are some playground for children which filled with play equipment, it’s free for everyone. The bike road is excellent, and there are several hiking road which is well maintained. There are always equipment designed for disabled person in public area.
你在開玩笑嗎?我沒去過美國,但我以前去過澳大利亞。
在我看來,在很多方面,阿德萊德都要比中國大城市更發(fā)達(dá)。
阿德萊德(澳大利亞的一個(gè)城市,我住了大約半年):
在城市的大部分地區(qū),都很容易找到公園,公園很干凈,可以隨時(shí)供游客參觀。在主干道和大部分公園里,你都能找到專門飲用的水龍頭,有一些兒童游樂場,里面都是游樂設(shè)備,每個(gè)人都可以免費(fèi)使用,自行車道很好,有好幾條步行的通道,也保養(yǎng)得很好,公共場所都是有專門為殘疾人設(shè)計(jì)的設(shè)備。
There are several big parks in the city, but it may be far from where you live. It’s very very hard to find water faucet for drink, so it’s wise to buy drinking water from store. You can find several playground for children which is behind high walls — it’s build by rich apartment and only for those who live there. There are a lot of cars in bike road, traffic light seems like advice more than order. It’s hard for find thing designed for disabled person, so it’s rare to see them in public area.
Developed city not only means busy road, high buildings, expensive goods in store, but also means a good place for human beings to live. In this way, I insist that cities in China still have a huge distance compare with cities in Australia, not to mention America.
北京(我住了5年多):
這個(gè)城市有幾個(gè)大的公園,但可能離你住的地方很遠(yuǎn),很難找到直接飲用的水龍頭,所以從商店買飲用水是明智的,你可以在高墻后面找到幾個(gè)兒童游樂場,它們是有錢的小區(qū)建造的,只有住在那里的人才能用。在自行車道上有很多車,紅綠燈似乎更多是一種建議,而不是必須要遵循的命令,為殘疾人設(shè)計(jì)的東西很難找到,所以很少在公共場所看到殘疾人。
發(fā)達(dá)城市不僅僅意味著道路繁忙,高樓大廈林立,商品琳瑯滿目,更意味著適合人類居住的好地方。所以,我堅(jiān)持認(rèn)為中國的城市和澳大利亞的城市還有很大的差距,更別說美國的了。