?網(wǎng)友討論：美國陸軍伙食賊配軍化？美國陸軍第1師的早餐 ，吃的和監(jiān)獄看齊
‘In prison or the DFAC?’: soldiers complain about base food
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我曾經(jīng)軍隊服役，現(xiàn)在聯(lián)邦監(jiān)獄工作。讓我告訴你們，囚犯吃得比這好。如果這軍中餐廳中正在發(fā)生的事情的真實的，我們應(yīng)該更好地照顧我們的軍隊。
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Times look tough for the U.S. Army if a photo of the breakfast served at one of the dining facilities to a soldier with the 299th Brigade Support Battalion is any indication.
一張陸軍第1師第 299 旅支援營士兵在其餐廳拍攝的早餐的照片在網(wǎng)上引發(fā)熱議，美國陸軍的日子看起來有點艱難。
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“I guess 299BSB is broke as hell, and we still went to NTC,” wrote user u/willsugmar, who shared a picture of a meager biscuit, sad scrambled eggs, and a pathetic puddle of gravy.
“我猜第 299 旅支援營已經(jīng)破產(chǎn)了，這還是我們在歐文堡時的待遇（歐文堡國家訓(xùn)練中心是位于加利福尼亞州圣貝納迪諾縣北部莫哈韋沙漠的美軍主要訓(xùn)練區(qū)），”用戶 willsugmar 寫道，他分享了一張薄薄的餅干、難看的炒雞蛋和一灘可憐的肉汁的照片。
“我猜第 299 旅支援營已經(jīng)破產(chǎn)了，這還是我們在歐文堡時的待遇（歐文堡國家訓(xùn)練中心是位于加利福尼亞州圣貝納迪諾縣北部莫哈韋沙漠的美軍主要訓(xùn)練區(qū)），”用戶 willsugmar 寫道，他分享了一張薄薄的餅干、難看的炒雞蛋和一灘可憐的肉汁的照片。
Many commenters likened the meal to prison food.
許多評論者將這頓飯比作監(jiān)獄的食物。
許多評論者將這頓飯比作監(jiān)獄的食物。
“In prison or the DFAC?” asked user diopsideINcalcite. “Because DFAC can get rough when you’re fighting over French toast. Dudes get shanked routinely.”
“這在監(jiān)獄里還是在軍營？”問用戶 diopsideINcalcite。 “當你為了一份法式吐司都得打一架時，軍營會變得混亂。阿兵哥們會經(jīng)常被打屁股?！?/b>
“這在監(jiān)獄里還是在軍營？”問用戶 diopsideINcalcite。 “當你為了一份法式吐司都得打一架時，軍營會變得混亂。阿兵哥們會經(jīng)常被打屁股?！?/b>
Complaints about the food at installation dining halls across the Defense Department are not new. And military officials don’t track the effectiveness of their ability to feed service members, according to a report by the Government Accountability Office.
關(guān)于整個國防部設(shè)施食堂的食物的投訴并不新鮮。根據(jù)政府問責辦公室的一份報告，軍方官員并沒有跟蹤他們?yōu)檐娙颂峁┦澄锏哪芰Φ挠行浴?/b>
關(guān)于整個國防部設(shè)施食堂的食物的投訴并不新鮮。根據(jù)政府問責辦公室的一份報告，軍方官員并沒有跟蹤他們?yōu)檐娙颂峁┦澄锏哪芰Φ挠行浴?/b>
The Defense Department withholds money from troops’ pay to provide on-post meals, three times a day. The quality of those meals, however, have left a bad taste in service members’ mouths.
國防部從部隊的工資中扣留了一天三頓飯的錢。然而，這些飯菜在美軍的口中嘗起來味道并不怎么樣。
國防部從部隊的工資中扣留了一天三頓飯的錢。然而，這些飯菜在美軍的口中嘗起來味道并不怎么樣。
“After many broken promises the system is still largely the same, with evidence showing that service members on meal cards are eating less than half the meals they are entitled to and for which they are charged,” Rep. Tim Ryan, D-Ohio, said in a statement to Military Times.
"俄亥俄州眾議員蒂姆-瑞安（Tim Ryan）在給《軍事時報》的一份聲明中說："在許多失敗的承諾之后，該系統(tǒng)仍然沒有改變，有證據(jù)表明，在美軍服役人員吃的食物的價值不到他們有權(quán)享用的和被收費的餐食的一半。
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"俄亥俄州眾議員蒂姆-瑞安（Tim Ryan）在給《軍事時報》的一份聲明中說："在許多失敗的承諾之后，該系統(tǒng)仍然沒有改變，有證據(jù)表明，在美軍服役人員吃的食物的價值不到他們有權(quán)享用的和被收費的餐食的一半。
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As for the dismal breakfast, “Convicts in Federal prison eat better then that,” wrote user Florida_man727.
至于圖片里這令人沮喪的早餐，“聯(lián)邦監(jiān)獄的囚犯吃得比這個更好，”用戶 Florida_man727 寫道。
至于圖片里這令人沮喪的早餐，“聯(lián)邦監(jiān)獄的囚犯吃得比這個更好，”用戶 Florida_man727 寫道。
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In 20 years of eating in USAF chow halls, no real complaints about the food other than it can get monotonous after a while. So I ate off base fairly regularly.
我在美國空軍食堂吃了 20 年的飯，除了食物會在一段時間后變得單調(diào)之外，沒有什么真正可抱怨的。但我經(jīng)常到基地外吃飯。
Air Force food was a step up from Army food. We used to go to Pope AFB (in the early 80's) to eat...until they wouldn't let us. Most of the time, I spent most of my meager $600/month eating off base too. But I don't recall ever being served a meal in any mess-hall like the one in the picture above.
空軍食品比陸軍食品要好上不少。我們過去常常去波普空軍基地（80 年代初）吃飯……直到他們不讓我們吃。大多數(shù)時候，我每月會花費600美元的微薄去基地外吃飯。但我不記得曾經(jīng)在圖里那樣的餐廳里吃過飯。
I agree. We were stationed at Goodfellow AFB after many years of Army posts. I decided to eat in the Air Force dining facility with some fellow Army NCOs. The sextion was amazing. After we were done eating, we sat there looking for the tray drop off. We were very startled when some personnel saw that we were done, came to our table, and took our trays! We were stunned, but apparently this is SOP. The Air Force takes care of their personnel far better. When they built new barracks, or dorms, on the base for their enlisted, our soldiers received their old dorms. The sad thing is, their old dorms were still far better than the barracks that our soldiers were living in!
我同意。經(jīng)過在陸軍服役多年，我們駐扎在古德費羅空軍基地。我和一些陸軍士官在空軍餐廳用餐。接下來真是驚到我了。吃完后，我們坐在那里四處張望想找放餐盤的地方。一些工作人員看到我們吃完后，來到我們的餐桌旁，拿走了我們的餐盤！我們驚呆了，但顯然是這里標準操作?？哲姼玫卣疹櫵麄兊娜藛T。當時他們在基地上為他們的士兵建造了新的營房，我們的士兵收到了他們的舊宿舍?？杀氖?，他們的舊宿舍還是比我們士兵居住的營房好太多了！
I've had the opportunity to serve in the military and work at a federal prison. Let me tell you that prisoners eat way better than this. We should take better care of our troops if this is in fact the honest truth of what's going on in the dining facilities.
我曾經(jīng)軍隊服役，現(xiàn)在聯(lián)邦監(jiān)獄工作。讓我告訴你們，囚犯吃得比這好。如果這軍中餐廳中正在發(fā)生的事情的真實的，我們應(yīng)該更好地照顧我們的軍隊。
This is what happens when you turn Mess Halls over to civilian contractors. When it was run by Mess Sergeants there was plenty of food. Officer's don't care they have the "CLUB"'
當你將食堂移交給民用承包商時，就會發(fā)生這種情況。當它由食堂中士經(jīng)營時，才會有很多食物。官員們不在乎這些，他們有“俱樂部”
It’s a racket to move funding from the defense budget into contractor and lobbyists/politicians pockets.
They don’t even try to hide it.
將資金從國防預(yù)算轉(zhuǎn)移到承包商和說客/政客的口袋里是一種騙局。
他們甚至不會試圖隱藏它。
Not mess hall, field kitchen. And where is the black half rotten mushy banana?
圖里應(yīng)該不是食堂，而是野戰(zhàn)廚房。黑色的半爛糊狀香蕉糊糊在哪里？
Field Kitchens are still manned by the same people that prepare, cook and serve and sometimes clean at a garrison 'mess hall'. In my opinion, as a retired Army SFC and last 14 years as the Platoon Sergeant of the support people like the Mess, Commo, Supply and for me, 63E40 maintenance, the cook profession is the hardest support service ALL THE TIME, in garrison or in the field! I'm not going to contradict the substance of the story.when that's what was offered for breakfast in 'the field'! Or I'd go hungry! :0) And going hungry is worse than eating what's in that photo! :)
野戰(zhàn)廚房仍然是由那些在駐軍 "食堂 "里的廚師烹飪和服務(wù)的。在我看來，作為一名退役的陸軍士官，在過去的14年里，我一直擔任炊事班、通信班、供應(yīng)班和維修班等支持人員的排長，無論在駐軍還是在野外，廚師的職業(yè)都是支持服務(wù)里最辛苦的。我不打算反駁這個圖片的事實。因為在 "戰(zhàn)場 "上，早餐就是這樣的。否則我就會挨餓！ 餓肚子比吃那張照片上的東西更糟糕! :)
In 32 years of Army active duty service in the U.S., Europe, Central/ South America, Pacific, and Asia. I have never had the DFAC on a military base serve food that looked like that and that also includes Navy and Airforce bases that we used during training. Not even in the field/deployments when we had K-Rations, C-Rations, and the MRE did our food look like that. I would bet that the Soldier picked what he wanted off of a larger menu and took this picture.
我在美國、歐洲、中/南美洲、太平洋和亞洲服役 32 年。我從來沒有在軍事基地的營房 看到過像那樣的食物，其中還包括我們在訓(xùn)練期間使用的海軍和空軍基地。除此之外我們還有 K-口糧、C-口糧和野戰(zhàn)口糧，我們的食物看起來也不是那樣的。我敢打賭，這個士兵從菜單中挑選了他想要的東西并拍了這張照片。
And I agree with your response. My experience with the food service (at least in the Army) is that it was decent and plentiful. Most of the complaints I had and heard were about NOT being fed at all
我同意你的回復(fù)。我有豐富的在軍隊中的餐飲經(jīng)驗。我聽到的大多數(shù)抱怨大部分都是關(guān)于食物不夠吃。
yep, US Army Retired here had food on a Navy ship out at sea spent 2 weeks out moving US Army equipment spent 6 mo with the USMC special assignment their mess hall food was good never when hungry had hot food in the field and had K-rats, C-rats, "lerps (that's all food you have to add water) " and MRE,
that picture shows are only the food he asks to get i guess he refused the bacon and pancakes and oatmeal
是的，我在美國陸軍退役后在海軍艦艇上吃過飯，曾經(jīng)在海上花了2周時間搬運美國陸軍裝備，在美國海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊時花了6個月時間執(zhí)行特殊任務(wù)，他們的食堂食物很好，在野外從來沒有斷過熱食，有 K-口糧、C-口糧。
那張照片只是他吃剩的食物，我猜他吃掉了培根、煎餅和燕麥片。
Army serves shit like this ， this is why I bounced.
軍隊提供這樣的狗屎服務(wù)，這就是我退役的原因。
We had some lows in a few mess halls when I served in the Army (72-76). They were always taken care of fairly quickly when us troops would complain.
當我在軍隊服役時（72-76 年），，我們在幾個食堂有有一段時間不太好。但當我們的部隊抱怨時，他們總是能很快得到解決。
Have them eat MRE's for a couple weeks straight. They will appreciate the biscuit, gravy & eggs more.
讓他們吃幾周野戰(zhàn)口糧。他們就會愛上眼前這頓飯。。
We need to save our money for Ukraine. So they should just be grateful, right?
我們需要為烏克蘭省錢。所以他們應(yīng)該感激，對吧？
I served in the U.S. Navy and I've been to prison, foods about the same.
我曾在美國海軍服役，也曾入過獄，吃的其實差不多
Most of our servicemembers are overweight, and that is an official fact from DoD. They would do well to lay off some of the usually good food.
我們的大多數(shù)軍人都超重，這是國防部的官方公布的事實。他們最好放棄一些好吃的食物。
Military food is great. And my current niece and nephew say they eat like a king
軍隊吃的很棒。我的侄女和侄子說他們吃得像個國王。
In my 4 years as a Marine in the 80s the mess hall food was not great but edible. Now when I got to visit both a Naval and an Air Force base there chow was so much better. Also there bennies for education etc, sleeping facilities...everything was better. The budget between the forces is not even close at all. So quit your whining and man up.
在我 80 年代在海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊服役4 年，食堂的食物不是很好，但還能吃?，F(xiàn)在，當我參觀海軍和空軍基地時，那里的食物好多了。還有教育等方面的福利，睡眠設(shè)施......一切都更好。兩支部隊之間根本不相上下。所以，放棄你的抱怨，振作起來。
I thought of this after reading some of the comments. I've been retired from the Navy for 7 years. I'm an Ironworker now and we had a job at the Great Lakes base. I couldn't wait to go to the galley for a big Navy breakfast every day.
看了一些評論后，我想到了這一點。我已經(jīng)從海軍退役了 7 年。我現(xiàn)在是一名鋼鐵工人，我在五大湖基地有一份工作。我每天都迫不及待地想去廚房吃一頓豐盛的海軍早餐。
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