一架直升機在加州失蹤，5名美國海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊確認死亡
5 US Marines confirmed dead after helicopter went missing in California
譯文簡介
The military helicopter went missing in California amid severe storms
軍用直升機在加利福尼亞的猛烈風(fēng)暴中失蹤
正文翻譯
5 US Marines confirmed dead after helicopter went missing in California
一架直升機在加州失蹤，5名美國海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊確認死亡
一架直升機在加州失蹤，5名美國海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊確認死亡
The military helicopter went missing in California amid severe storms
軍用直升機在加利福尼亞的猛烈風(fēng)暴中失蹤
軍用直升機在加利福尼亞的猛烈風(fēng)暴中失蹤
By Anders Hagstrom Fox News
Published February 8, 2024 8:09am EST | upxed February 8, 2024 8:54am EST
The five U.S. Marines aboard a helicopter that went missing on a trip from Nevada to California were confirmed dead on Thursday.
周四，一架從內(nèi)華達州飛往加利福尼亞州的直升機，上面失蹤的五名美國海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員被證實死亡。
Published February 8, 2024 8:09am EST | upxed February 8, 2024 8:54am EST
The five U.S. Marines aboard a helicopter that went missing on a trip from Nevada to California were confirmed dead on Thursday.
周四，一架從內(nèi)華達州飛往加利福尼亞州的直升機，上面失蹤的五名美國海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員被證實死亡。
First responders found the crashed CH-53E Super Stallion helicopter following hours of searching on Wednesday, but they did not find the crew until Thursday morning.
在周三，救援人員進行了數(shù)個小時的搜索后發(fā)現(xiàn)了墜毀的CH-53E超級種馬直升機，但直到周四早上才找到機組人員。
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在周三，救援人員進行了數(shù)個小時的搜索后發(fā)現(xiàn)了墜毀的CH-53E超級種馬直升機，但直到周四早上才找到機組人員。
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"It is with a heavy heart and profound sadness that I share the loss of five outstanding Marines from the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing and the "Flying Tigers" while conducting a training flight last night," Maj. Gen. Borgschulte, Commanding General for the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, said in a statement.
“我懷著沉重的心情和深切的悲痛，來告知在昨晚的一次飛行訓(xùn)練中失去五名杰出的海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊隊員，他們來自海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊第三聯(lián)隊和‘飛虎隊’?！焙＼婈憫?zhàn)隊第三聯(lián)隊的指揮官博格·舒爾特（Borg schulte）少將在一份聲明中表示。
“我懷著沉重的心情和深切的悲痛，來告知在昨晚的一次飛行訓(xùn)練中失去五名杰出的海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊隊員，他們來自海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊第三聯(lián)隊和‘飛虎隊’?！焙＼婈憫?zhàn)隊第三聯(lián)隊的指揮官博格·舒爾特（Borg schulte）少將在一份聲明中表示。
"These pilots and crew members were serving a calling greater than self and were proud to do so. We will forever be grateful for their call to duty and selfless service," he added. "To the families of our fallen Marines, we send our deepest condolences and commit to ensuring your support and care during this incredibly difficult time."
“這些飛行員和機組人員是在為一項比個人更重要的使命服務(wù)，他們?yōu)榇烁械阶院馈?br /> 我們將永遠感激他們的責(zé)任召喚和無私奉獻?！彼a充道?！拔覀兿蜿囃龊＼婈憫?zhàn)隊員的家屬致以最深切的哀悼，并承諾在這一極其困難的時刻確保給你們的支持和關(guān)心?！?/b>
“這些飛行員和機組人員是在為一項比個人更重要的使命服務(wù)，他們?yōu)榇烁械阶院馈?br /> 我們將永遠感激他們的責(zé)任召喚和無私奉獻?！彼a充道?！拔覀兿蜿囃龊＼婈憫?zhàn)隊員的家屬致以最深切的哀悼，并承諾在這一極其困難的時刻確保給你們的支持和關(guān)心?！?/b>
The U.S. military does not reveal the identities of deceased service members until at least 24 hours after all next-of-kin notifications have been made.
美國軍方發(fā)出所有近親通知書至少24小時后，才會公布陣亡軍人的身份。
美國軍方發(fā)出所有近親通知書至少24小時后，才會公布陣亡軍人的身份。
White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre confirmed Wednesday that President Biden had been briefed on the situation, and Biden released a statement after the Marines' deaths were confirmed.
白宮新聞秘書卡瑞妮·讓-皮埃爾（Karine Jean-Pierre）星期三證實，拜登總統(tǒng)已經(jīng)聽取了有關(guān)情況簡報。拜登在海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員死亡的消息得到證實后發(fā)表了一份聲明。
白宮新聞秘書卡瑞妮·讓-皮埃爾（Karine Jean-Pierre）星期三證實，拜登總統(tǒng)已經(jīng)聽取了有關(guān)情況簡報。拜登在海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員死亡的消息得到證實后發(fā)表了一份聲明。
"Jill and I are heartbroken at the loss of five U.S. Marines, whose aircraft crashed while flying from Nevada to California during a routine training mission. As the Department of Defense continues to assess what occurred, we extend our deepest condolences to their families, their squadron, and the U.S. Marine Corps as we grieve the loss of five of our nation’s finest warriors," Biden said in a statement.
“吉爾和我為失去五名美國海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員感到心碎，他們的飛機在從內(nèi)華達州飛往加利福尼亞的例行訓(xùn)練任務(wù)中墜毀。在國防部繼續(xù)評估所發(fā)生的事情的同時，我們向他們的家人、他們的中隊和美國海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊致以最深切的慰問，我們?yōu)槭ノ覀儑椅迕顑?yōu)秀的戰(zhàn)士感到悲痛?！卑莸窃诼暶骼锉硎尽?/b>
“吉爾和我為失去五名美國海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員感到心碎，他們的飛機在從內(nèi)華達州飛往加利福尼亞的例行訓(xùn)練任務(wù)中墜毀。在國防部繼續(xù)評估所發(fā)生的事情的同時，我們向他們的家人、他們的中隊和美國海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊致以最深切的慰問，我們?yōu)槭ノ覀儑椅迕顑?yōu)秀的戰(zhàn)士感到悲痛?！卑莸窃诼暶骼锉硎尽?/b>
"I am deeply grateful to the San Diego County Sheriff’s Department, the U.S. Air Force Auxiliary-Civil Air Patrol, and other federal, state, and local agencies for their professionalism and dedication in supporting search and recovery efforts. Our service members represent the very best of our nation, and these five Marines were no exception. Today, as we mourn this profound loss, we honor their selfless service and ultimate sacrifice—and reaffirm the sacred obligation we bear to all those who wear the uniform and their families," he continued.
“我非常感謝圣地亞哥縣治安部門、美國空軍助手-民間空中巡邏隊以及其他聯(lián)邦、州和地方機構(gòu)在提供支持搜索和恢復(fù)工作方面的專業(yè)精神和奉獻精神。我們的軍人代表著我們國家最優(yōu)秀的人才，這五位海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員也不例外。今天，在我們哀悼這一重大損失的同時，我們對他們無私的服務(wù)和最終的犧牲表示敬意，并重申我們對所有身穿制服的人和他們的家人都負有神圣的義務(wù)?！?/b>
“我非常感謝圣地亞哥縣治安部門、美國空軍助手-民間空中巡邏隊以及其他聯(lián)邦、州和地方機構(gòu)在提供支持搜索和恢復(fù)工作方面的專業(yè)精神和奉獻精神。我們的軍人代表著我們國家最優(yōu)秀的人才，這五位海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員也不例外。今天，在我們哀悼這一重大損失的同時，我們對他們無私的服務(wù)和最終的犧牲表示敬意，并重申我們對所有身穿制服的人和他們的家人都負有神圣的義務(wù)?！?/b>
A map shows Creech Air Force Base in Indian Springs, Nevada, where a military helicopter took off for Marine Corps Air Station Miramar in San Diego, California. The helicopter with five on board went missing, and all crew were confirmed dead on Thursday. (Fox News)
地圖顯示內(nèi)華達州印第安斯普林斯的克里奇空軍基地，一架軍用直升機從那里起飛，前往加利福尼亞州圣地亞哥的海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊米拉瑪爾空軍基地。這架機上載有5人的直升機失蹤，所有機組人員于周四均已確認死亡。
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The CH-53E Super Stallion helicopter had departed Creech Air Force Base in Nevada en route to Marine Corps Air Station Miramar near San Diego Tuesday night.
周二晚上，這架CH-53E超級種馬直升機從內(nèi)華達州克里奇空軍基地起飛，前往圣地亞哥附近的海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊米拉馬爾空軍基地。
周二晚上，這架CH-53E超級種馬直升機從內(nèi)華達州克里奇空軍基地起飛，前往圣地亞哥附近的海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊米拉馬爾空軍基地。
Local first responders were first contacted regarding the incident early Wednesday morning. The San Diego Sheriff's Office attempted to send a helicopter to begin the search immediately, but the aircraft was called off due to the "atmospheric river" storm hitting the area.
當?shù)氐谝豁憫?yīng)者/援助人員首次接觸到這起事故是在周三凌晨。圣地亞哥警長辦公室立即派遣一架直升機嘗試開始搜索，但由于“大氣河”暴風(fēng)雨襲擊該地區(qū)，該任務(wù)被取消。
【first responders：第一響應(yīng)者：在事故或緊急情況發(fā)生時，第一時間到達現(xiàn)場提供援助的人員，例如警察或緊急醫(yī)療技術(shù)人員?！?br /> 【atmospheric river：大氣河流：大氣河流是指在大氣中流動的水蒸氣的濃集帶，它是全球水文循環(huán)的重要組成部分，也是區(qū)域降水的重要來源?！?/b>
當?shù)氐谝豁憫?yīng)者/援助人員首次接觸到這起事故是在周三凌晨。圣地亞哥警長辦公室立即派遣一架直升機嘗試開始搜索，但由于“大氣河”暴風(fēng)雨襲擊該地區(qū)，該任務(wù)被取消。
【first responders：第一響應(yīng)者：在事故或緊急情況發(fā)生時，第一時間到達現(xiàn)場提供援助的人員，例如警察或緊急醫(yī)療技術(shù)人員?！?br /> 【atmospheric river：大氣河流：大氣河流是指在大氣中流動的水蒸氣的濃集帶，它是全球水文循環(huán)的重要組成部分，也是區(qū)域降水的重要來源?！?/b>
The incident comes roughly two months after a U.S. Air Force Osprey crashed off the coast of Japan in December. All eight crew members aboard the craft were killed in the incident.
這起事故發(fā)生的大約兩個月前，（去年）12月美國空軍一架魚鷹戰(zhàn)機在日本海岸墜毀。機上8名機組人員全部遇難。
這起事故發(fā)生的大約兩個月前，（去年）12月美國空軍一架魚鷹戰(zhàn)機在日本海岸墜毀。機上8名機組人員全部遇難。
a U.S. Air Force Osprey crashed off the coast of Japan in December. All eight crew members aboard the craft were killed in the incident. (Smith Collection/Gado/Getty Images)去年12月，一架美國空軍魚鷹戰(zhàn)機在日本海岸墜毀。機上8名機組人員全部遇難。
Another Osprey crashed in August 2023 with over 20 Marines aboard. Three service members were killed in that incident and about 20 were injured.
另有一架魚鷹在2023年8月墜毀，機上有20多名海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員。三名人員在那次事件中喪生，還有大約20人受傷。
另有一架魚鷹在2023年8月墜毀，機上有20多名海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員。三名人員在那次事件中喪生，還有大約20人受傷。
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As a mom of a Marine - my heart goes out to the families of these fallen Marines. May they be comforted. The details will come out soon enough why they were allowed to fly and who is responsible. But for now, five military lives were lost and they deserve all the honor for stepping up to take the oath to serve and protect.
作為一名海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員的母親-我的心與這些陣亡海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員的家人同在。愿他們得到慰藉。他們被允許飛行的原因以及誰對此負責(zé)的細節(jié)很快就會公布。但目前，五名軍人失去了生命，他們值得獲得全部的榮譽，因為他們?yōu)榱朔?wù)和保護的誓言挺身而出。
I was asking the exact same question. The entire nation knew there was a major storm in California that had already killed people. As a retired Army helicopter pilot I am scratching my head wondering what the weather brief looked like before they took off.
我也在問同樣的問題。整個國家都知道加州有一場大風(fēng)暴，已經(jīng)造成了人員死亡。作為一名退役的軍隊直升機飛行員，我撓破頭想知道他們起飛前的天氣簡報。
I’m a current military IP and am wondering the same thing. I’d love to know what their weather brief said and then did the weather progress as forecast or get worse? Betting it was a VFR flight plan, and these guys were trying to maintain VMC. I’ve flown from San Diego to Fallon NV a few times. Great in VMC….real tough in the goo.
我現(xiàn)在是一名軍事IP，我也在想同樣的事情。我很想知道他們的天氣簡報是怎么說的，然后天氣是像預(yù)報的那樣發(fā)展還是變得更糟了? 我打賭這是一個目視飛行【VFR：visual flight rules】計劃，這些人試圖目視氣象條件【VMC：Visual Meteorological Conditions】。我從圣地亞哥到內(nèi)華達州法倫飛過幾次。VMC很好....實際很難。
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I didn't do much flying in the west, only a few flights to NTC. But I am going to go out on a limb here and say those are some tall mountains they were attempting to fly over. Not the smartest thing to do when the entire nation was hearing how bad this storm was going to be in California.
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我在西部沒怎么飛過，只飛過幾次去NTC。但我要在這里大膽地指出，他們試圖飛越的是一些高山。當整個國家都聽到這場風(fēng)暴將在加州肆虐時，這不是最明智的做法。
Same here. Former Army helo. It sounds like they were trying to maintain VFR around the mountains in that weather. Plain crazy for a military flight.
我也一樣。前軍隊直升機（駕駛員）。聽起來他們是想在那種天氣下在維持VFR繞過山脈。對于一次軍事飛行來說簡直是瘋了。
Rest in peace, Marines! No greater honor than giving your lives for our nation. Semper FI to each of you! My sympathies lie with grieving families, and our nation.
安息吧，海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊們! 沒有什么比為我們的國家獻出生命更光榮的了。賦予你們每一個人Semper FI!【Semper FI：永遠忠誠：美國海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊的座右銘，意為“永遠忠誠”，表示對國家和軍隊的忠誠。】我的悲憫與悲傷的家庭及我們的國家同在。
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The crash was not in an Osprey. There’s nothing wrong with 30 year old airfrx as the avionics and critical parts are upxed all the time. The B-52 bombers have been flying since the 1950’s.
墜機事故不是發(fā)生在魚鷹上。擁有30年歷史的機身并沒有什么問題，因為航空電子設(shè)備和關(guān)鍵部件一直在更新。B-52轟炸機自20世紀50年代以來一直在飛。
And my condemnation to the unit commander that requested/authorized this mission in extremely bad weather. There is a time & place where a unit commander must declare, "THIS MISSION IS NOT SURVIVABLE". And unless the goal of the mission is worth it, the mission should be scrubbed.
而我對在極端惡劣的天氣下要求/批準這項任務(wù)的單位指揮官表示譴責(zé)。在一個時間&地點，單位指揮官必須宣布，“這個任務(wù)是致命的”。除非這個任務(wù)的目的值得，否則這個任務(wù)就應(yīng)該擦除。
Ok, what no one is talking about is why they were flying - on an extended journey - in such bad weather.
Nothing in peace time [here at least] is so important as to put so many lives at risk as well as a multi million dollar aircraft by flying in an "atmospheric river".
As a retired Marine officer who has conducted investigations, the person who authrized this flight needs to have a career ending come to Jesus meeting with his or her commanding general - if not charged under the Uniform Code of Military Justice for negligence and neglect of duty.
好吧，沒有人談?wù)摰氖撬麄優(yōu)槭裁匆?在如此惡劣的天氣下-進行長途飛行。
在和平時期(至少在這里)，沒有什么比讓數(shù)百萬美元的飛機和讓如此多的生命在“大氣河”中危險飛行更重要的了。
我作為一名主管調(diào)查的退休海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊軍官，認為授權(quán)這次飛行的人需要結(jié)束他的職業(yè)生涯，與他或她的指揮官來場come-to-Jesus meeting——如果沒有根據(jù)統(tǒng)一軍法典被指控疏忽和玩忽職守的話。
【come-to-Jesus meeting：1. A spiritual meeting in which participants are encouraged to repent their sins and accept Jesus Christ as their savior. 2. Any meeting in which a frank, often unpleasant, conversation is held so as to bring to light and/or resolve some issue at hand. 1. 一種宗教聚會，鼓勵參與者懺悔他們的罪并接受耶穌基督為他們的救世主。2. 為了揭露和/或解決手頭的問題而進行坦率的、通常不愉快的談話的會議。】
Agreed. Something is odd with this. The picture they had of the helicopter looked like there was not much damage. It does not seem like there was enough damage to kill all 5. Also if they were killed in the crash, why did they have to spend a day looking for them? Dead people don't walk away from a crash.
同意。這有點奇怪。他們拍的直升機照片看來沒那么多損傷。造成的傷害看起來不足以殺死5個人。此外，如果5人是在墜毀中被殺死的，為何他們必須花了一天去尋找呢？死人不能從墜毀中走出來。
im a former Marine officer. you are right on the money. over the past decade there has been more than one helo crash caused by weather that killed service members. Im talking peace time training, not combat missions. I also do not understand why the pilots are taking unnecessary risk and flying into known bad weather. you make only one mistake on flights like these, and its your last and final mistake. its shameful. If they are out and run into bad weather, why not set down ? I dont understand it. keep speaking truth and Semper Fi.
我是一名前海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊指揮。你是對的，無比準確。過去幾十年，有不止一次的直升機墜毀事故是因為天氣造成軍人死亡了。我談?wù)摰氖钦Ｓ?xùn)練，不是戰(zhàn)斗任務(wù)。我也不理解為何駕駛員們在談?wù)摬槐匾奈ｋU和飛入已知的壞天氣。你在這類的飛行里做哪怕一次失誤，也會是你最后和最終的一次失誤。這是可恥的。如果他們出發(fā)并進入了壞天氣里面，為何不降落？我不理解。繼續(xù)說著真理和永遠忠誠吧。
There sure have been a lot of accidents lately. My son is active Marine and makes me sick at the equipment they get. Where is all the money going? The Osprey is a death trap and most of the choppers are 30 years old.
最近確實有許多事故。我兒子是現(xiàn)役海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊，而讓我不舒服的是他們得到的裝備。所有的錢都到哪兒了？魚鷹是一個死亡陷阱，而大部分的直升機已裝備30年了。
Reminds me of Vietnam. We had old overused helicopters with minimal maintenance. All of our services should have the best equipment possible. We spend huge sums of money on illegals. We need to spend it on our men and women in uniform. This is on the heads of our politicians of both parties.
讓我想起越南的事。我們有著過度使用的老直升機，只有最低的維護。我們所有的軍人應(yīng)該得到最好的裝備。我們花了巨款在非法移民上。我們需要把錢花在我們的男女軍人上。 這是我們兩黨政客的責(zé)任。
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Sorry but we need to give all the money for equipment to the Ukraine and Israel so there is nothing left for our troops. Maybe we can get some of that new equipment back that we left in Afghanistan?
抱歉，但我們需要支付所有的錢購買武器給烏克蘭和以色列，所有這兒沒有剩余的給我們的軍人。也許我們能收回一些我們留在阿富汗的新裝備？
Best wishes to the families. Sorry for your loss.
給這些家庭最好的祝愿。為你難過。
The commander who authorized this flight under such conditions needs to be held responsible. There is NO reason to endanger mens lives on a non-critical mission in such weather. Our troops deserve better! God Bless these brave souls!
在這種情況下，批準這次飛行的指揮官需要承擔責(zé)任。這類天氣中，沒有理由在非必要任務(wù)里讓人命置于危險中。我們的軍人應(yīng)該受到更好的對待！上帝保佑這些勇敢的靈魂！
Maybe if they went back to promotions based on merit instead of equity we might get better results.
也許如果他們回到基于價值而不是公平的晉升方式，我們可能會得到更好的結(jié)果。
I’m sure that this particular post will get a lot of responses. Being an ex naval aviator the commanding officer needs to be pretty flexible when it comes to the responsibility he places in his charges. One thing good about the Navy and the Marines is that you are given a tremendous amount of responsibility at a young age! The pilot in command of this aircraft certainly had the option, at all times, to choose an alternate instead of continuing onto his destination if this was a weather related accident. I’m not sure what the weather was at the time of the accident so I cannot comment on the Pilots decision to continue to his destination. Also because the accident board has not come up with a cause this could’ve been Maintenance related. I know the weather in the San Diego area was not good at the time of the accident but was there some other factor involved? God bless these young men for wanting to serve our country and they did pay the ultimate price for that service. I pray for the grieving families, and for the souls of their loved ones, may God give you all peace.
我相信這篇特別的文章會得到很多回應(yīng)。作為一名前海軍飛行員，當涉及到他所負責(zé)的責(zé)任時，指揮官需要相當靈活。海軍和海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊的一個好處是，你在年輕的時候就被賦予了巨大的責(zé)任! 如果這是與天氣有關(guān)的事故，駕駛這架飛機的飛行員當然在任何時候都可以有另一種選擇，而不是繼續(xù)飛往目的地。我不確定事故發(fā)生時的天氣情況，所以我不能對飛行員繼續(xù)飛往目的地的決定發(fā)表評論。另外，事故調(diào)查委員會還沒有提出這事故可能與維修有關(guān)。我知道事故發(fā)生時圣地亞哥地區(qū)的天氣不太好，但是否有涉及其他因素? 上帝保佑這些愿意為國效力的年輕人，他們確實為此付出了巨大的代價。我為這些悲傷的家庭祈禱，為他們所愛的人的靈魂祈禱，愿上帝賜予你們安寧。
When democrats are in charge it seems our military suffers more losses due to maintenance issues than when republicans are in charge. Just like when Carter was president during the Iran mission and several choppers crashed or wouldn’t function properly during the mission. Just another good reason why we need republicans in charge of our country.
當民主黨掌權(quán)時，我們的軍隊似乎比共和黨掌權(quán)時遭受更多的損失。就像卡特總統(tǒng)在伊朗任務(wù)期間，多架直升機在任務(wù)期間墜毀或無法正常工作一樣。這是我們需要共和黨管理我們國家的另一個很好的理由。
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That's for sure. Remember when Clinton shut down a bunch of bases because, he said, Russia and China were not a threat anymore?
那是肯定的。還記得克林頓關(guān)閉了一堆基地嗎？因為他說，俄羅斯和中國不再是威脅了。
It seems? How do the numbers compare? What are the actual statistics?
似乎? 數(shù)字是如何比較的? 真實的統(tǒng)計數(shù)字是什么?
We thank these service members for their service to our Country, may they rest in peace!
我們感謝這些為國家服務(wù)的軍人，愿他們安息!
God bless those men and women who serve our country. They put themselves in harms way every day to keep us safe.
愿上帝保佑那些為國效力的男男女女。他們每天冒著危險保護我們的安全。
With a weak President making decisions
還有一個軟弱的總統(tǒng)做的決定
My condolences to the family and friends of these Fallen American soldiers. It's people like them that allow me to have the freedoms I have. May they rest in peace
我向這些陣亡美國士兵的家人和朋友表示哀悼。正是像他們這樣的人讓我有了現(xiàn)在的自由。愿他們安息
U.S. Army has Soldiers.
U.S. Navy has Sailors and Marines.
U.S. Air Force has Airmen.
U.S. Coast Guard has Sailors.
美國陸軍有士兵。
美國海軍有水兵和陸戰(zhàn)隊員。
美國空軍有飛行員。
美國海岸警衛(wèi)隊有水兵。
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Actually, Marines are in the U.S. Marine Corps, not the U.S. Navy. I get it; both the Navy and Marine Corps fall under the Department of the Navy, but they are separate branches, each with their own chief/commandant.
Also, don't forget the U.S. Space Force; they have Guardians.
實際上，海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊屬于美國海軍陸戰(zhàn)特種部隊，而不是美國海軍。我明白了; 海軍和海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊都屬于海軍部，但它們是獨立的分支，各自有自己的首領(lǐng)/指揮官。
此外，不要忘記美國太空部隊; 他們有保護人。
Actually, the Marine Corps - a separate branch of the Armed Forces - has Marines and a few sailors, whom we very much appreciate. (USMC, Ret.)
實際上，海軍陸戰(zhàn)特種部隊——是武裝力量的一個獨立分支——有海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員和少量水兵構(gòu)成，我們非常感謝他們。(USMC, Ret.)
A very difficult time to serve our great nation considering its leadership. My condolences to those that made the sacrifice even under theses extreme conditions.
考慮到我們的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)，現(xiàn)在是服務(wù)這個偉大的國家的一個非常困難的時期。我向那些在極端條件下做出犧牲的人表示哀悼。
Many conservatives have bailed out of the military after being passed over for affirmative action promotions.
許多保守派人士被平權(quán)晉升法案忽略后，已經(jīng)退出了軍隊。
A simple prayer for the families, friends, and loved ones - and all of us who support them: Give them Strength, Bring them Peace.
給他們的家人，朋友，和愛人——以及我們所有這些支持他們的人一個純粹的祈禱：賦予他們力量，帶給他們安寧。
RIP Marines. May God bless and keep you. Such a tragic loss of life and a profound reminder that the business of defending our nation is a dangerous one, whether engaged in combat or training for it. God Bless their families.
安息吧，海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員們。愿上帝保佑你。如此悲劇性的死亡，深刻地提醒我們，保衛(wèi)我們的國家是一項危險的事業(yè)，無論是參與戰(zhàn)斗還是為此進行訓(xùn)練。愿上帝保佑他們的家人。
God bless these young warriors as they rest in peace. Our hearts sit heavy with grief...If not us, then who? Our nation remains strong because of your selfless commitment. Semper Fidelis, we'll see you welcome us at Heaven's Gate!
愿上帝保佑這些年輕的戰(zhàn)士，讓他們安息。我們的心情沉重，充滿悲傷…如果不是我們，那么還有誰呢？我們的國家保持強大正是因為你們的無私奉獻。永遠忠誠，我們將會在天堂之門看見你們迎接我們的。
Thank all our servicemen for what they do. Without their bravery, sacrifices and commitment we’d probably be speaking a different language now. Their dedication cannot be measured.
感謝我們所有軍人所做的一切。如果沒有他們的勇敢、犧牲和忠誠，我們現(xiàn)在可能正說著另一種語言。他們的奉獻是無法衡量的。
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I have one question.
Why was a helicopter cleared to fly during severe weather conditions??
What "training" were they learning in that act? Militaries cancel missions and cancel flights due to inclement weather and this has been a practice since mankind began warring. Early on we would not war in the winter months at all. As we progressed we still had limitations. We would not fly bombing missions through cloud cover. It is doubtful unless a mission is of the utmost importance you would risk flying helicopters in severe weather even to this day with all our modern technologies; so again- why were they flying?
我有一個問題。
為什么直升機被批準在惡劣天氣條件下飛行? 他們在這一行動中得到了什么“訓(xùn)練”? 在惡劣天氣期間軍隊取消任務(wù)和飛行，這是人類自開始交戰(zhàn)以來的慣例。以前，我們根本不會在冬天打仗。盡管我們科技進步了，但我們?nèi)匀挥芯窒扌?。我們不會穿越云層?zhí)行轟炸任務(wù)。這是不大可能的，除非是一項極其重要的任務(wù)，你才會冒險在惡劣的天氣下駕駛直升機，即使到今天我們擁有各種的現(xiàn)代技術(shù)也是如此; 那么再問一次——他們?yōu)槭裁匆w呢?
Excellent question. I will not denigrate these Marines for serving our country and dying as a result of this accident.
Most of us understand that the DEI insanity has metastasized into the military and the results will always be lower mission readiness and poor decision making.
非常好的問題。我不會詆毀這些為國效力的海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員，他們在這次事故中犧牲了。
我們大多數(shù)人都明白，DEI的精神錯亂政策已經(jīng)擴散到軍隊中，其結(jié)果將會是永遠低級的任務(wù)準備狀態(tài)和糟糕的決策過程。
【DEI policies Also known as a diversity, equity and inclusion (DE&I) policy也被稱為多元化、公平和包容(DE&I)政策】
Because they were instrument rated pilots flying an all-weather aircraft. Naval aviators spend a lot of time training to fly in inclement weather. My favorite is flying in and out IMC on NVGs. Talk about getting the leans. But through training you develop the skills to work through it.
Yes, there are limitations. At this point it is impossible to say what the conditions were that cause the crash it exactly what happened. That will all come out when the investigations are completed.
因為他們是駕駛?cè)旌蝻w機的儀表額定值引航員。海軍飛行員花大量時間訓(xùn)練如何在惡劣天氣下飛行。我最喜歡的是通過夜視儀器在不利天氣下飛來飛去。至于getting the leans。通過訓(xùn)練，提高你的能力來克服它。
是的，這有局限性。在這一點上，是不可能說出導(dǎo)致墜機的準確原因的。調(diào)查結(jié)束后，一切都會清楚的。
【Getting the leans： 這個短語通常在飛行員的上下文中使用，特別是在討論飛行中的感覺和身體狀態(tài)時。它指的是一種視覺錯覺，飛行員在失去外部視覺參照物的情況下，開始感覺自己的飛行姿態(tài)（如飛行器的傾斜角度）與實際情況不符合，導(dǎo)致產(chǎn)生了錯誤的感覺。
在夜間或惡劣天氣條件下飛行時，飛行員可能無法清晰地看到地面或其他外部參照物，從而導(dǎo)致他們開始依賴飛行儀表進行導(dǎo)航和控制。然而，如果他們的內(nèi)耳（平衡感覺器官）沒有接收到足夠的正確信息，他們可能會感到自己的飛行姿態(tài)出現(xiàn)了偏差，這就是所謂的 "getting the leans"。
這種錯覺可能導(dǎo)致飛行員做出錯誤的飛行決策，因此對于飛行員來說，重要的是要在這種情況下依賴飛行儀表，而不是依賴自己的感覺。這也強調(diào)了飛行員接受良好訓(xùn)練和保持適當技能以處理這些情況的重要性?！?/b>
So yesterday the report was that they found the helicopter without saying if it crashed or just landed and they were still searching for the 5 crew members as if they walked off and they were trying to find them. If the aircraft crashed its pretty easy to determine that they were all onboard. Why put out a report that they were still searching for the crew members as if they walked away? I have never seen an aircraft accident reported in this way....EVER.
所以昨天的報道是，他們找到了直升機，但沒有說明它是墜毀還是剛剛著陸，他們當時仍在尋找5名機組人員，就好像他們走開了，他們正試圖找到他們。如果飛機墜毀了，很容易確定他們都在飛機上。為什么要發(fā)布一份報道說他們還在尋找機組人員，就好像他們走開了? 我從來沒有見過這樣報道飛機事故的....從來沒有。
It would not be easy to positively determine that they were all onboard. This is a very large helicopter and it would take considerable time to sort through the wreckage and burnt/melted pieces to not only identify and recover any remains but also positively identify whose remains they are, all while documenting everything for evidence in the investigation. You could presume all five were on board, but nothing can be definitely stated until it has been confirmed.
要確定他們是否都在直升機上并不容易。這是一架非常大的直升機，需要花費相當長的時間對殘骸和燒焦/熔化的碎片進行分類，不僅要識別和恢復(fù)任何一點的遺骸，還要積極確定他們是誰的遺體，同時還要記錄一切，作為調(diào)查的證據(jù)。你可以推測五個人都在直升機上，但在得到確認之前，什么都不能肯定。
If the weather was so bad the search mission had to be called off, why were they conducting a training exercise in these same conditions. Why fly in these conditions unless it's absolutely necessary.
如果天氣如此惡劣，以致搜索任務(wù)不得不取消，他們?yōu)槭裁催€要在同樣的條件下進行訓(xùn)練? 除非絕對必要，否則為什么要在這種情況下飛行。
Sadden to hear that more of my fellow service members have died in this accident. A thorough independent investigation needs to take place to find the cause. I have my suspicions. May God Bless the families and our service members.
聽到的我的戰(zhàn)友們在這次事故中喪生，我感到很難過。需要一個全面的獨立調(diào)查以找出原因。我有不好的預(yù)感。愿上帝保佑這些家庭和軍人。
God, watch over them, watch over their families. Guide them where they need to go.
上帝啊，保佑他們，保佑他們的家人。引導(dǎo)他們?nèi)ニ麄冊撊サ牡胤健?/b>
Until Valhalla brothers/sisters. Rest in peace. Praying for your family/friends. Thank you for your dedication to service for our nation.
直到英靈殿的兄弟姐妹們。愿你安息。為你的家人/朋友祈禱。感謝你為國家服務(wù)的奉獻。
RIP to my brother Marines; its a constant reminder of risks and dangers even in training. In the Navy, we sailors also had deaths and injuries in the '70s; need to keep diligent and prepare to minimize or erase these accidents.
愿我的海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊兄弟安息; 即使在訓(xùn)練中，它也會不斷提醒我們風(fēng)險和危險。至于海軍，我們的水手同樣在70年代有受傷和死亡; 需要保持著勤奮，準備著盡量減少或消除這些事故。
Worked as civilian in Pentagon on a helicopter study. When a Marine came in to see "my" Army officers they were always in awe. My Dad was a Destroyer Naval Officer in WWII battles -- always impressed by Marines fighting on the beach while they fired over their heads.
Marines deserve the best of everything!
在五角大樓從事過直升機研究。當海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員來看“我的”陸軍長官時，他們總是充滿敬畏。
我的父親是二戰(zhàn)中的一名驅(qū)逐艦海軍軍官——他總是對海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊在海灘上作戰(zhàn)的時候，軍艦開火越過他們頭頂?shù)那榫坝∠笊羁獭?br /> 海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊應(yīng)該得到最好的一切!
Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen deserve the best and the respect they have earned.
陸軍海軍和空軍應(yīng)該得到最好的待遇和他們應(yīng)得的尊重。
I was in HMH 361 “Flying Tigers” back in the early 1980s. God bless the fallen and families of these Marines. Military aviation is tough even in peace time. Semper Fi to all our brothers and sisters in the Corps.
80年代初，我在HMH 361“飛虎隊”服役。愿上帝保佑這些犧牲的海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊員和他們的家人。即使在和平時期，軍事航空也是很艱難的。致敬我們特種部隊所有的兄弟姐妹。
My old squadron also, '74/'75.
也是我服役的老空軍中隊，在74/ 75年。
Yesterday it was reported that the wreckage was found - but not any remains, which was odd enough in and of itself, especially that they would have been strapped into their seats in the cabin. Unless of course, they were all attempting to jump out before crashing. It'll be interesting to see if any details are released.
Too many HELO incidents as of late...something is amiss!
Meanwhile, God Bless their souls and console their families...and thank you for your service to the USA
昨天有報道稱，飛機殘骸被發(fā)現(xiàn)，但沒有任何遺骸，這本身就很奇怪，特別是他們很可能已被系在機艙的座位上的情況下。當然，除非他們都想在墜毀前跳出來。如果有任何細節(jié)公布，這將會很有趣。
最近直升機事故太多了…有點不對勁!
同時，愿上帝保佑他們的靈魂，安慰他們的家人……感謝你為美國的服務(wù)