網(wǎng)友爭論：越南文化和中國文化的淵源

@Jameshesnandes
I don't think Vietnam is like a com...st country as the media propaganda says they are more open and free than China. Vietnam is very interesting, how can they compete with 3 superpowers: America - China - Russia? It seems that history has proven that in Vietnam they only have one independent nationalism, not capitalism or Com...ism. Vietnam is a country that has experienced the most wars in the world and has been under a long-term embargo, but they have transformed strongly from a poor country into an emerging industrial country. it comes from hard work

我不認(rèn)為越南像一個共產(chǎn)主義國家，因為媒體宣傳說他們比中國更開放和自由。越南很有趣，他們是怎樣做到與美中俄這三個超級大國競爭的？歷史似乎已經(jīng)證明，在越南他們有一種獨(dú)立的民族主義，而不是資本主義或共產(chǎn)主義。越南是世界上經(jīng)歷戰(zhàn)爭最多的國家，長期處于禁運(yùn)狀態(tài)，但由于他們的努力工作，他們已經(jīng)極大地從貧窮國家轉(zhuǎn)型為一個新興工業(yè)國家。

@user-cp7xy3tm8x

祝福領(lǐng)袖人物們和您們的國民.平安健康快樂.安定祥和.謝謝大家.

@huybuinam6380
Love VietNam from California

我愛越南，來自加利福尼亞！

@joncordel5737
The Philippines SHOULD follow or emulate Vietnams Foreign Policy of
FOUR NO's
1. No Military Alliances
2. No Siding With One Country Against Another
3. No Foreign Military Bases or using Vietnamese Territory to Oppose other countries
4. No Using Force or Threatening force In International Relations
A very INTELLIGENT FOREIGN POLICY indeed.

菲律賓應(yīng)該遵循或效仿越南”四個不“的外交政策：
1、不軍事結(jié)盟
2、不站在一個國家一邊對抗另一個國家
3、不存在外國軍事基地或利用越南領(lǐng)土對抗其他國家
4、在國際關(guān)系中不使用武力或武力威脅
這確實是一個非常明智的外交政策。
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@jerryle379
Phil can't , as it has a weak military , hence it can't be neutral and needs an allied. Vietnam can be neutral and stay neutral cause if anyone try to invade us they will have a good fight

菲律賓不行的，因為它的軍事力量很弱，因此保持不了中立的，它需要盟友。越南可以保持中立，因為如果有人想入侵我們，他們會面臨一場激烈的戰(zhàn)爭。

@chrysllerryu4171
we already try it during duterte regime, what happen?

我們在杜特爾特時期已經(jīng)試過了，發(fā)生了什么？

@mihbag6
@chrysllerryu4171 During Duterte, Phillipine is on the side of china

@chrysllerryu4171 杜特爾特執(zhí)政期間，菲律賓站在中國一邊。

@viethavn
Philippines is different from Vietnam. In the past, both China and the United States had big trouble when invading Vietnam. Vietnam also has close relations with Russia and India

菲律賓與越南不同。過去，中國和美國在”入侵“越南時都遇到過很大的麻煩。越南還與俄羅斯和印度關(guān)系密切。

@andynq5225
Vietnamese fought against the French for 80 years, the US for 18 years, the Japanese for 5 years, the Mongols for 5 years (3 invasions) , and Chinese for around 2200 years.

越南與法國作戰(zhàn)了80年，與美國作戰(zhàn)了18年，與日本作戰(zhàn)了5年，與蒙古作戰(zhàn)了5年（3次入侵），與中國作戰(zhàn)了大約2200年。

@pipiqiqi4010
Vietnam was part of China; you inherited the civilisation from China as well.

越南曾經(jīng)是中國的一部分：你們也繼承了來自中國的文明。

@AhmetTekin101
@pipiqiqi4010 Very dumb statement without fact!

@pipiqiqi4010 樓上，這是非常愚蠢的說法，毫無事實依據(jù)！

@AhmetTekin101
@pipiqiqi4010 The reverse of what you said is true.

@pipiqiqi4010 你說的恰恰相反。

@pipiqiqi4010
@AhmetTekin101 that's the truth. look your pervious character and culture which is the heritage from China.

@AhmetTekin101 這是事實。看看你們之前的文字和文化，這是繼承自中國的。

@andynq5225
@pipiqiqi4010 Qin empire conquered Vietnamese tribals then after Qin, all Chinese empires from Han to Ming did consider Vietnam as part of China and tried to rule or re-conquer Vietnam, but Vietnamese never think their land is part of China at all. With your logic, China is part of Mongolia and USA is part of UK lM. Learn your history please.

@pipiqiqi4010 秦帝國征服了越南部落，但在秦之后，從漢到明的所有中國帝國，都將越南視為中國的一部分，并試圖統(tǒng)治或者重新征服越南，但越南人根本不認(rèn)為他們的土地是中國的一部分。按照你的邏輯，中國是蒙古的一部分，美國是英國的一部分。請學(xué)點(diǎn)歷史吧。

@AhmetTekin101
@pipiqiqi4010 The Chinese characters were invented by Vietnamese.

@pipiqiqi4010 漢字是越南人發(fā)明的。

@pipiqiqi4010
@AhmetTekin101 haha, that's really ridiculous. but Vietnamese as the inventors can't recognise the Chinese characters.

@AhmetTekin101 哈哈，這真的很荒謬。但作為發(fā)明者的越南人卻不認(rèn)識漢字。

@AhmetTekin101
@pipiqiqi4010 Most Chinese Hans carry Vietnamese DNA. The reverse is not true.

@pipiqiqi4010 大多數(shù)中國漢人都帶有越南DNA，反之則不然。

@vanchien5874
@AhmetTekin101 You said right, the Han Chinese always act like superior. The south land of China was occupied first by Vietnamese, so basically Vietnamese are accessors of South Han Chinese. How's ironic that Han Chinese will deny it and claim everything as theirs own.

@AhmetTekin101 你說得對，漢人總是表現(xiàn)得像更優(yōu)越似的。中國南方的土地，首先是被越南人占領(lǐng)的，所以越南人基本上是南方漢人的祖先。諷刺的是，漢人否認(rèn)這一點(diǎn)并聲稱一切都是他們自己的。

@pipiqiqi4010
@lukhach92 there was a kingdom named Yue (similiar pronuce with the viet) in China 2400-2700 years ago. and people called the land in the south of this kingdom south Yue, which include the north part of the current Vietnam. even in the Tang dynasty (1300 years ago), the governor of the north part of Vietnam was assigned by the Chinese central government in Changan (the ancient capital of China).
so, it is right that I said Vietnam was part of China.

@lukhach92 2400—2700年前，中國有一個名叫越國（與viet發(fā)音相似）的國家。人們稱該國南部的土地為南越，（南越的范圍）包括現(xiàn)在越南的北部地區(qū)。即使在1300年前的唐朝，越南北部的管轄者也是由（中國古都）長安的中央政府委派的。
所以，我說越南曾經(jīng)是中國的一部分，這是對的。

@AhmetTekin101
@vanchien5874 You are correct. Even the "Chinese New Year" was invented by the Thai and Vietnamese.

@vanchien5874 你說得對。就連“中國新年”也是泰國人和越南人發(fā)明的。

@pipiqiqi4010
@AhmetTekin101 so you agree that Vietnamese has same DNA with the Chinese Hans?

@AhmetTekin101 所以你同意越南人和中國漢人有相同的DNA？

@pipiqiqi4010
@andynq5225 how do you know your ancestors had never considered themselves as part of China?
In Tang dynasty, there was a famous poet named Wang Bo, whose father was county magistrate in Vietnam. if Vietnam had never been part of China, why a Chinese can be assigned to the county leader in Vietnam 1300 years ago?

@andynq522 5你怎么知道你們祖先從不認(rèn)為自己是中國的一部分？
唐代有一位著名詩人，名叫王勃，他的父親是越南的縣令。如果越南從未成為中國的一部分，為什么1300年前的越南縣令可以由中國人擔(dān)任？

@leschon9363
As Vietnamese, we are all afraid of death and poverty caused by wars, but we are even more afraid of when the country is occupied by foreign troops, the country is divided, the people were enslaved and the country became a colony controlled by foreign powers. We would rather die than be slaves. In thousands of years of wars with China or other empires, the Vietnamese people may die but are never subdued.

作為越南人，我們都害怕戰(zhàn)爭造成的死亡和貧困，但我們更害怕國家被外國軍隊占領(lǐng)，國家分裂，人民被奴役，國家成為外國列強(qiáng)控制的殖民地 。 我們寧愿死也不愿做奴隸。 在與中國或其他帝國的數(shù)千年戰(zhàn)爭中，越南人民可能會死，但永遠(yuǎn)不會屈服。
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@mastertrend4685
@AhmetTekin101 Vietnam was established by Chinese and the name of country was given by Chinese emperor.

@AhmetTekin101 越南是中國人建立的，國名是中國皇帝給的。

@mastertrend4685
@AhmetTekin101 the Chinese new year was created based on 24 solar term. But Vietnam is in tropical area, how can you guys invented 24 solar term? lol, you guys never saw snow…..

@AhmetTekin101 中國新年是根據(jù)二十四節(jié)氣創(chuàng)建的，但越南地處熱帶，你們怎么能發(fā)明24節(jié)氣呢？ 哈，你們都沒見過雪……
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@mastertrend4685
@AhmetTekin101 you US dad’s Wikipedia says “The Lunar Year holiday was originally brought to Vietnam by the Chinese, who had formally incorporated Vietnam into their Han Dynasty empire in 111 BCE and mostly had ruled it for over 1000 years until the collapse of the Tang Dynasty in the 10 th century.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%E1%BA%BFt?wprov=sfti1#

@AhmetTekin101 你美國爸爸的維基百科說“農(nóng)歷新年最初是由中國人帶到越南的，（中國）在公元前111年正式將越南納入他們的漢帝國，并統(tǒng)治了它1000多年，直到十世紀(jì)唐朝崩潰?！?/b>
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