為什么印度擁有如此多的 STEM 畢業(yè)生，卻依然如此落后？
Why is India so behind despite having so many STEM graduates
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因?yàn)椴⒎撬杏《?STEM 學(xué)位都能培養(yǎng)出有用的技能！
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Why is India so behind despite having so many STEM graduates
為什么印度擁有如此多的 STEM 畢業(yè)生，卻依然如此落后？
為什么印度擁有如此多的 STEM 畢業(yè)生，卻依然如此落后？
https://cset.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/STEM-Graphic-1-HD.png
India graduates the 2nd most STEM graduates in the world, way more than the U.S., 2nd only to China and yet, I don’t see India having even a fraction of the advances of those countries.
https://cset.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/stem-graphic-1-hd.png
印度是全球 STEM 畢業(yè)生人數(shù)第二多的國(guó)家，遠(yuǎn)超美國(guó)，僅次于中國(guó)。然而，我卻沒(méi)有看到印度取得哪怕是這些國(guó)家一小部分的進(jìn)步。
India graduates the 2nd most STEM graduates in the world, way more than the U.S., 2nd only to China and yet, I don’t see India having even a fraction of the advances of those countries.
https://cset.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/stem-graphic-1-hd.png
印度是全球 STEM 畢業(yè)生人數(shù)第二多的國(guó)家，遠(yuǎn)超美國(guó)，僅次于中國(guó)。然而，我卻沒(méi)有看到印度取得哪怕是這些國(guó)家一小部分的進(jìn)步。
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Coz not all STEM degrees from India churn useful skills! There are dime-a-dozen private "colleges" that churn out useless, unskilled "engineers" who don't have requisite skills to compete on a world stage. Quantity != Quality.
因?yàn)椴⒎撬杏《?STEM 學(xué)位都能培養(yǎng)出有用的技能！印度有大量廉價(jià)的私立“大學(xué)”，它們培養(yǎng)出毫無(wú)用處、技能不足的“工程師”，這些人不具備在國(guó)際舞臺(tái)上競(jìng)爭(zhēng)的必要技能。 數(shù)量 != 質(zhì)量。
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So true. The focus is on wordy definitions, classifications and complex methods which are outdated because simpler ways are used in the industry. But, nah, the professors are allergic to anything which improves efficiency and reduces rote work - they need to see you put in a truck load of effort - even when it is absolutely not needed.
確實(shí)如此。 教育重點(diǎn)放在冗長(zhǎng)的定義、分類和復(fù)雜的方法上，而這些方法早已過(guò)時(shí)，因?yàn)樾袠I(yè)中都在使用更簡(jiǎn)便的方式。 但是，唉，教授們似乎對(duì)任何能提高效率、減少死記硬背的做法都深惡痛絕——他們需要看到你付出大量的努力，即使這根本沒(méi)有必要。
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This and the system of teaching, teaching quality is pathetic. Can’t blame as all of us need food on table.
確實(shí)如此，而且教學(xué)體系和教學(xué)質(zhì)量都非常糟糕。 這也不能全怪他們，畢竟大家都要養(yǎng)家糊口。
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yeah thats so valid indian education never focuses on analytical stuff. since day 1 we are only mugging, up untill the day we graduate we just cram stuff which doesn't mean we r actually good at stem. Having a degree says nothing
是的，說(shuō)得很有道理，印度教育從來(lái)不注重分析能力。從一開(kāi)始我們就只知道死記硬背，直到畢業(yè)那天我們都只是在填鴨式地學(xué)習(xí)，但這并不意味著我們真的擅長(zhǎng) STEM。 擁有一個(gè)學(xué)位并不能說(shuō)明什么。
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Take away reservations completely and create a meritocracy and see the results. Reservations have been in effect since 1950’s! Time to get back to building the country from scratch one brick at a time
徹底取消配額制度，建立一個(gè)精英制度，看看結(jié)果會(huì)怎樣。 配額制度從 1950 年代就開(kāi)始實(shí)施了！ 是時(shí)候重新開(kāi)始，一塊磚一塊磚地從頭建設(shè)這個(gè)國(guó)家了。
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>Take away reservations completely
Were you born yesterday? That's like asking Americans to give up their guns.
“徹底取消配額制度”
你昨天才出生的嗎？ 這就像要求美國(guó)人放棄他們的槍支一樣。
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Why do we care about what American’s do or don’t. I thought we were trying to understand why aren’t we encouraging STEM professionals to stay back and work here. How is Americans reacting to guns have to do with this? It is an issue here that we need to solve. Just because a country doesn’t do something doesn’t mean we shouldn’t.
我們?yōu)槭裁匆苊绹?guó)人做什么或不做什么。 我們不是正在試圖了解為什么我們沒(méi)有鼓勵(lì) STEM 專業(yè)人士留下來(lái)在這里工作嗎。 美國(guó)人對(duì)槍支的反應(yīng)跟這有什么關(guān)系？ 這是我們需要在這里解決的問(wèn)題。 僅僅因?yàn)橐粋€(gè)國(guó)家不這樣做并不意味著我們不應(yīng)該這樣做。
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Cause he didnt actually get what the comment he replied to said, his comment in general is right but its the wrong answer to reply
因?yàn)樗麑?shí)際上沒(méi)有理解他回復(fù)的評(píng)論的意思，他的評(píng)論本身總體上是對(duì)的，但作為回復(fù)來(lái)說(shuō)答非所問(wèn)。
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Reservations are one reason, but that alone won't solve the problem.. EU provides social security and US has high salaries+ low overall taxation.. Both provide better infrastructure, more freedom , access to global markets and lower corruption in daily life.salaries aren't in govt control, but taxation, social security infrastructure and the other things I mentioned are. All of which will need to be improved to keep people here willingly.
配額制度是一個(gè)原因，但僅靠這個(gè)無(wú)法解決問(wèn)題。 歐盟提供社會(huì)保障，美國(guó)則提供高薪 + 較低的總體稅收。 兩者都提供更好的基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施、更多的自由、進(jìn)入全球市場(chǎng)的機(jī)會(huì)以及更低的日常生活腐敗程度。 薪資不在政府的控制范圍內(nèi)，但稅收、社會(huì)保障、基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施以及我提到的其他方面都在政府的控制范圍內(nèi)。 所有這些都需要改進(jìn)，才能讓人們心甘情愿地留在這里。
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to elaborate more on that, in these countries, scientists are backed by their government obviously not completely but quite to a large extent. The foreign governments actually give 2 shits about the country and want them to be developed. Indian politicians on the other hand are too busy in their politics and corruption even if someone tries to do smthn the politicians would shit on him and take all the persons resources. It's like the perfect example of when mughal emperors were busy building their tombs, oxford university was being built in the same time period. That's whats happening today as well apparently
Thats why it is very important to have educated people running the country
為了更詳細(xì)地說(shuō)明，在這些國(guó)家，科學(xué)家們顯然得到了政府的支持，雖然不是完全支持，但在很大程度上是這樣的。外國(guó)政府實(shí)際上非常重視國(guó)家發(fā)展，并希望它們得到發(fā)展。 另一方面，印度政客們卻忙于政治和腐敗，即使有人嘗試做些什么，政客們也會(huì)打壓他，并奪走他所有的資源。 這就像一個(gè)完美的例子，當(dāng)莫臥兒皇帝忙于建造陵墓時(shí)，牛津大學(xué)正是在同一時(shí)期建造的。 顯然，今天的情況也是如此。
這就是為什么讓受過(guò)教育的人來(lái)管理國(guó)家非常重要。
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Take out caste discrimination, take out corruption. They are tightly connected makes people to disobey laws and so least civic sense. Caste is the root of all problems in India
消除種姓歧視，消除腐敗。 它們緊密相連，導(dǎo)致人們不遵守法律，公民意識(shí)淡薄。 種姓制度是印度所有問(wèn)題的根源。
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There’s almost no innovation in India. Look around and see big companies. Everyone wants to do just profitable business. I don’t think reservations are the root cause for every problem.
印度幾乎沒(méi)有創(chuàng)新。 環(huán)顧四周，看看那些大公司。 每個(gè)人都只想做有利可圖的生意。 我認(rèn)為配額制度不是所有問(wèn)題的根源。
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Scale the amount of research papers we publish by the amount of “upper caste/ non reservation” students in academia who got in purely on “merit”, and who beat the other intelligent reservation candidates to the race. India still lags behind.
Some of the dumbest engineers I know have aced their major entrance exams. Some of the smartest people I know wouldn’t pass a basic Indian engineering exam paper today.
Indian exams are an elimination process, not a sextion process. We don’t sext for smart capable engineers, we discard those who failed to show dedication to rote learning.
Removing reservation isn’t gonna fix the fact that our measure of meritocracy is not in sync with industry expectations
將我們發(fā)表的研究論文數(shù)量，按學(xué)術(shù)界中純粹依靠“ merit”（即自身能力）入學(xué)的“上層種姓/非配額”學(xué)生人數(shù)進(jìn)行衡量，以及那些擊敗了其他聰明的配額候選人的人數(shù)。 印度仍然落后。
我認(rèn)識(shí)的一些最笨的工程師，卻在重要的入學(xué)考試中取得了優(yōu)異的成績(jī)。 而我認(rèn)識(shí)的一些最聰明的人，今天可能連一份基礎(chǔ)的印度工程考試試卷都無(wú)法通過(guò)。
印度考試是一個(gè)淘汰過(guò)程，而不是選拔過(guò)程。 我們不是在選拔聰明能干的工程師，而是在淘汰那些未能展現(xiàn)出對(duì)死記硬背學(xué)習(xí)投入的人。
取消配額制度并不能解決我們的精英選拔標(biāo)準(zhǔn)與行業(yè)期望脫節(jié)的現(xiàn)實(shí)。
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Agreed. But having a meritocracy will help raise standards, what’s happening in US with elimination of DEI and affirmative actions will help raise standards.
When one sees fellow students in the same classroom with 50% less marks than you the motivation to do something better is lost. One just wants to get this over with and move out of the country.
People tend to take an easier way out.
同意。 但是，擁有精英制度將有助于提高標(biāo)準(zhǔn)，美國(guó)正在發(fā)生的取消 DEI 和平權(quán)行動(dòng)的事情將有助于提高標(biāo)準(zhǔn)。
當(dāng)一個(gè)人看到同一個(gè)教室里的同學(xué)分?jǐn)?shù)比你低 50% 時(shí)，就會(huì)失去把事情做得更好的動(dòng)力。 人們只想趕緊結(jié)束這一切，然后離開(kāi)這個(gè)國(guó)家。
人們往往會(huì)選擇更輕松的路。
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Do you live in the US.
I do. What is happening will Not raise any standards. In fact, the department of education ensures that disabled and differently abled kids get proper access to education. With that defunded, these kids are gonna suffer big time. DEI elimination is specifically a move to rile up people without any actual benefits. The US has a problem of lack of interest in higher education, not of affirmative action.
Indian reservation system and American affirmative action process are not comparable in most ways.
你住在美國(guó)嗎？
是的，我住在美國(guó)。 正在發(fā)生的事情并不會(huì)提高任何標(biāo)準(zhǔn)。 事實(shí)上，美國(guó)教育部確保殘疾兒童和身心障礙兒童獲得適當(dāng)?shù)慕逃龣C(jī)會(huì)。 如果這方面的資金被削減，這些孩子將會(huì)遭受巨大的打擊。 取消 DEI 實(shí)際上是一種煽動(dòng)民眾的手段，沒(méi)有任何實(shí)際好處。 美國(guó)的問(wèn)題是對(duì)高等教育缺乏興趣，而不是平權(quán)行動(dòng)。
印度配額制度和美國(guó)平權(quán)行動(dòng)在很多方面都不具有可比性。
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most of the best ones dont. they go abroad .
some bright ones switch to MBA from IIM / ISB.
very few top folks stay back. but then funding / politics hinder their R&D works
大多數(shù)最優(yōu)秀的人才都沒(méi)有留下來(lái)，他們都出國(guó)了。
一些聰明的人從印度管理學(xué)院 (IIM) / 印度商學(xué)院 (ISB) 轉(zhuǎn)去讀 MBA。
只有極少數(shù)頂尖人才留下來(lái)。 但是，資金/政治因素又阻礙了他們的研發(fā)工作。
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This is exactly why, out of my 200 batchmates from a very prestigious research institute 180 odd left for abroad, 20 odd went for an MBA and some out of those 20 still left or are thinking of leaving.
Even if they wanted to stay here, they didn't have the same opportunities here and not everyone can afford to jump into a PhD, people from middle and lower classes need to earn and the best they were getting here were odd teaching jobs at some good schools and coaching centres. While some of them would eventually turn out to be making some money in those jobs too it's like asking them to start all over again, so why not start all over again in a place where they get more.
The nation will grow more by incentivising their best to stay in the country. The US and Europe have essentially the 'first pick' on the humans most likely to succeed in any field. They'll starve their own to highly incentivise people good at something to come to their country, we're the opposite. Patriotism bait isn't gonna work on people who feel they're not getting what they deserve or even close to it.
這正是原因所在，我們一個(gè)非常著名的研究所的 200 名同班同學(xué)中，大約有 180 人出國(guó)了，大約 20 人去讀了 MBA，而這 20 人中還有一些已經(jīng)離開(kāi)或正在考慮離開(kāi)。
即使他們想留在這里，他們?cè)谶@里也沒(méi)有相同的機(jī)會(huì)，而且不是每個(gè)人都能負(fù)擔(dān)得起直接讀博士。 中下階層的人需要賺錢，而他們?cè)谶@里能找到的最好的工作就是在一些好學(xué)校和輔導(dǎo)中心做零星的教學(xué)工作。 雖然他們中的一些人最終也會(huì)在這些工作中賺到一些錢，但這就像讓他們重新開(kāi)始一樣，所以為什么不在一個(gè)能獲得更多的地方重新開(kāi)始呢？
國(guó)家要發(fā)展壯大，應(yīng)該激勵(lì)最優(yōu)秀的人才留在國(guó)內(nèi)。 美國(guó)和歐洲基本上擁有在任何領(lǐng)域最有可能成功的人才的“優(yōu)先選擇權(quán)”。 他們會(huì)不惜代價(jià)地激勵(lì)那些在某些方面有專長(zhǎng)的人才來(lái)到他們的國(guó)家，而我們卻恰恰相反。 對(duì)于那些覺(jué)得自己沒(méi)有得到應(yīng)有的待遇，甚至連邊都沾不上的人來(lái)說(shuō)，愛(ài)國(guó)主義的誘餌是行不通的。
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Quantity over quality.
重?cái)?shù)量輕質(zhì)量。
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quality of higher ed is shit
no one wants to create anything just copy paste
people want to be slaves rather than doin smth good
高等教育質(zhì)量就是垃圾。
沒(méi)人想創(chuàng)造任何東西，只會(huì)復(fù)制粘貼。
人們寧愿當(dāng)奴隸，也不愿做一些有益的事情。
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To be fair, the environment itself is not conducive for innovation....
Invent something extraordinary and you'll be forced to either sell to a politician/die trying to defend it in courts.....
公平地說(shuō)，環(huán)境本身不利于創(chuàng)新……
發(fā)明一些非凡的東西，你會(huì)被迫賣給政客，或者為了在法庭上保護(hù)它而死...
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Well. Professors should understand it first
During my b tech. We were asked to write a program for a particular problem that was already taught in the class. Unfortunately I was absent when it was taught. But it wasn't a really difficult question. So I came up with the code myself that is way better than what was taught.
My professor couldn't even understand my code. Straight up told me it was wrong and failed me in the test. I had to go to the dept head and explain everything to get my marks
好吧，教授們應(yīng)該首先明白這一點(diǎn)。
在我的本科技術(shù)課程期間，我們被要求為一個(gè)課堂上已經(jīng)教過(guò)的問(wèn)題編寫(xiě)程序。 不幸的是，在教這部分內(nèi)容時(shí)我缺席了。 但這不是一個(gè)非常困難的問(wèn)題。 所以我自己編寫(xiě)了代碼，它比老師教的要好得多。
我的教授甚至看不懂我的代碼。 直接告訴我代碼是錯(cuò)的，考試也沒(méi)讓我及格。 我不得不去找系主任解釋一切，才拿回了分?jǐn)?shù)。
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This never goes away even in so called big tech
即使在所謂的科技大公司里，這種情況也永遠(yuǎn)不會(huì)消失。
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I am with this , professor, teachers needs a lots of improvement in india. Education system from elementary needs improvement, it is difficult to understand if u r in it , and English/ local language education is not an issue , total local publish material, in local or English language is an issue , if professors don’t publish there own material , and depend upon outside publications, it is un affordable and un digestible but locals , I have education from and India and outside , spend half of my life in India and half outside
我同意這個(gè)觀點(diǎn)，印度的教授和教師們確實(shí)需要大幅改進(jìn)。 從小學(xué)開(kāi)始的教育系統(tǒng)就需要改進(jìn)，如果你身在其中，就會(huì)覺(jué)得很難理解。 英語(yǔ)/當(dāng)?shù)卣Z(yǔ)言教育不是問(wèn)題，問(wèn)題在于本地出版的教材，無(wú)論是本地語(yǔ)言還是英語(yǔ)。 如果教授們不出版自己的教材，而是依賴外部出版物，這對(duì)本地人來(lái)說(shuō)是難以負(fù)擔(dān)和難以理解的。 我在印度和國(guó)外都接受過(guò)教育，一半的人生在印度度過(guò)，一半在國(guó)外度過(guò)。
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thats also true but the common fact is.. indians just dont wanna create
這也有道理，但普遍的事實(shí)是……印度人就是不想創(chuàng)造。
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Dude! You cannot expect a hungry stomach to think innovatively.....
Everyone wants to invest in Safe bets and it's not their fault! Everybody is 1 medical emergency away from being thrown on the streets!
老兄！ 你不能指望一個(gè)饑腸轆轆的人能進(jìn)行創(chuàng)新思考……
每個(gè)人都想投資穩(wěn)妥的項(xiàng)目，這不能怪他們！ 每個(gè)人都可能因?yàn)橐淮尉o急的大病而流落街頭！
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No. We fear failure. We shouldn't feel embarrassed about it, rather view it as an opportunity to learn. Also, the attitude that everything has to be the best only then it has some value - no let's make things functional first, we can improve as we go or keep them basic, if that's sufficient.
不，我們是害怕失敗。我們不應(yīng)該為此感到難堪，而應(yīng)該把它看作是一個(gè)學(xué)習(xí)的機(jī)會(huì)。還有那種認(rèn)為只有一切都做到最好才有價(jià)值的態(tài)度——不，讓我們先讓東西能用起來(lái)，我們可以邊走邊改進(jìn)，或者保持基本功能，如果這樣就足夠了。
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Sorry we are not even copying because if we are you would have seen at least the copies from India and go the china way. We are just struck in pseudo science and buying risk free assets like real estate like gold which doesn't help entrepreneurs get the much needed funding.
抱歉，我們甚至連抄襲都算不上，因?yàn)槿绻覀冋娴某u了，你至少會(huì)看到印度出現(xiàn)一些仿制品，然后像中國(guó)那樣發(fā)展起來(lái)。我們只是被偽科學(xué)困住了，而且熱衷于購(gòu)買像房地產(chǎn)和黃金這樣的無(wú)風(fēng)險(xiǎn)資產(chǎn)，這（創(chuàng)新）根本無(wú)法幫助企業(yè)家獲得他們急需的資金。
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Reasons:
1. Parents force them to and they don't really want to do that.
2. Quality is low, like we have farzi phds and mtechs.
3. Good STEM graduates leave the country bcz of low class infrastructure that doesn't value their talents.
原因：
1. 家長(zhǎng)強(qiáng)迫他們學(xué) STEM，但他們自己其實(shí)并不想學(xué)。
2. 教育質(zhì)量低下，就像我們這里有很多水貨博士和碩士一樣。
3. 優(yōu)秀的 STEM 畢業(yè)生都離開(kāi)了國(guó)家，因?yàn)檫@里的基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施太差勁，不重視他們的才能。
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India produces brilliant STEM graduates, but innovation is crippled by a mix of underfunding, risk aversion, and bureaucratic stagnation. In companies, novel ideas are often dismissed because management prioritizes short-term profits over long-term breakthroughs. The result?
Talented individuals either leave the country or suppress their ambitions. Until we fix this systemic reluctance to invest in risk-heavy, high-reward research, India will remain a follower rather than a leader in deep-tech innovation.
印度培養(yǎng)了許多優(yōu)秀的 STEM 畢業(yè)生，但創(chuàng)新卻因資金不足、規(guī)避風(fēng)險(xiǎn)和官僚主義停滯不前等多種因素而受阻。 在公司里，新穎的想法常常被否決，因?yàn)楣芾韺觾?yōu)先考慮短期利潤(rùn)，而不是長(zhǎng)期突破。 結(jié)果呢？
有才華的人要么離開(kāi)這個(gè)國(guó)家，要么壓抑自己的抱負(fù)。 除非我們解決這種系統(tǒng)性地不愿投資高風(fēng)險(xiǎn)、高回報(bào)研究的狀況，否則印度在深科技創(chuàng)新領(lǐng)域?qū)⑷匀皇且粋€(gè)追隨者，而不是領(lǐng)導(dǎo)者。
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I have a stem degree. But good god I don't know squat even when I was a fresh graduate..
我有一個(gè) STEM 學(xué)位。 但是，我的天哪，即使我剛畢業(yè)的時(shí)候，我也什么都不懂……
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Because our courses are not designed to be practically useful. They are used to show off how much you are 'learning' i.e. memorizing information which is available at your finger tips.
因?yàn)槲覀兊恼n程設(shè)計(jì)就不是為了實(shí)用。 它們只是用來(lái)炫耀你“學(xué)習(xí)”了多少東西，也就是死記硬背那些動(dòng)動(dòng)手指就能查到的信息。
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Most STEM graduates are only doing it because their parents asked them to. Most high quality talent just leaves the country blaming system, lack of opportunities etc. Nobody wants to get their hands dirty and actually work to change things on ground. The fetish of social media posts, foreign trips, getting high paying jobs is all we care about.
Changing things on ground requires hard work and commitment which none of us(or very few of us) are actually ready to do. We just want to complain(myself included, I left the country too)
大多數(shù) STEM 畢業(yè)生只是因?yàn)楦改敢蟛湃W(xué)的。 大多數(shù)高質(zhì)量的人才都離開(kāi)了這個(gè)國(guó)家，并且抱怨體制、缺乏機(jī)會(huì)等等。 沒(méi)有人愿意真正腳踏實(shí)地地去改變現(xiàn)狀。 我們只在乎社交媒體上的炫耀、出國(guó)旅行、找到高薪工作這些事情。
實(shí)實(shí)在在地改變現(xiàn)狀需要努力和付出，而我們（或者說(shuō)我們當(dāng)中極少一部分人）實(shí)際上并沒(méi)有做好準(zhǔn)備。 我們只想抱怨（包括我自己，我也離開(kāi)了這個(gè)國(guó)家）。
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a friend of mine needed a microsope to finish her PhD, she been asking for it for several years, her PhD was stuck becuase there were a few experiments left to do and she needed this specialised microsope, she finally got access to it a few days before her deadline...there was a caste angle to her being deined access for 10 years....10 fuckin years of her life, she could have finished it in 4 years .
most indian univs are dominated by the upper caste folks and there is a crazy amount of gate keeping, the few routes through which diverse ideas poured in are now being dismanteled...in India, unless you annhilate the caste system from our social fabric, we will never have good univs, the upper caste those who can afford will go abroad, the upper caste who gate keep univ jobs will also be happy within their savarna acedemic ecosystem...
most of my friends , my partner are central/state univ professors i move in their circles,....so i know
我的一個(gè)朋友需要一臺(tái)顯微鏡才能完成她的博士學(xué)位，她為此已經(jīng)申請(qǐng)了好幾年，她的博士研究停滯不前，因?yàn)檫€剩下一些實(shí)驗(yàn)要做，而她需要這臺(tái)特殊的顯微鏡。她終于在截止日期前幾天才獲得了使用權(quán)…… 她被拒絕使用顯微鏡長(zhǎng)達(dá) 10 年，這其中存在種姓歧視的因素…… 整整 10 年，她本可以在 4 年內(nèi)完成博士學(xué)位的。
大多數(shù)印度大學(xué)都被高種姓的人把持，而且存在著令人難以置信的 “守門(mén)” 現(xiàn)象（gate keeping，指把持資源和機(jī)會(huì)，阻止他人進(jìn)入）。 少數(shù)能夠涌入多元化思想的渠道現(xiàn)在正在被瓦解…… 在印度，除非我們從社會(huì)結(jié)構(gòu)中徹底消除種姓制度，否則我們永遠(yuǎn)不會(huì)有好的大學(xué)。 那些有能力負(fù)擔(dān)得起的高種姓人士會(huì)出國(guó)，而那些把持大學(xué)教職的高種姓人士也會(huì)在他們自己的薩瓦納種姓 (savarna) 學(xué)術(shù)生態(tài)系統(tǒng)中感到滿意……
我的大多數(shù)朋友，我的伴侶都是中央/州立大學(xué)的教授，我身處他們的圈子里…… 所以我了解情況。
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Lack of Manufacturing Hub. If we somehow become a manufacturing hub... Half of India's problem would be solved
缺乏制造業(yè)中心。 如果我們能以某種方式成為制造業(yè)中心…… 印度一半的問(wèn)題就能得到解決。
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A graduate in most countries is a Master's degree. 4 year bachelor's is undergraduate.
在大多數(shù)國(guó)家，研究生指的是碩士學(xué)位。 四年制學(xué)士學(xué)位是本科。
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Ratta maar ke pass Karne ka vyavastha rakhoge toh yehi haal hoga
如果你繼續(xù)維持死記硬背就能通過(guò)考試的制度，那（印度 STEM 落后）就是必然的結(jié)果。
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Because India’s focus has been wrong since independence. We need to really strengthen the access and quality of primary education first, once that is achieved we should then focus on higher education but we always spend way too much on higher education ignoring basic which will obviously result in very apparent inequality. There are so many schools in states where even the teacher doesn’t come ad even if they come they themselves don’t know how to teach or know about their own subject. The situation is so bad that even while having the worlds largest population, we don’t even have semi skilled labour to make our infrastructure
因?yàn)橛《茸元?dú)立以來(lái)，發(fā)展重點(diǎn)就錯(cuò)了。 我們需要首先真正加強(qiáng)初等教育的普及和質(zhì)量，一旦實(shí)現(xiàn)這一目標(biāo)，我們才應(yīng)該關(guān)注高等教育。 但我們總是過(guò)度投入高等教育，而忽視基礎(chǔ)教育，這顯然會(huì)導(dǎo)致非常明顯的不平等。 在一些邦，有很多學(xué)校甚至沒(méi)有老師來(lái)上課，即使老師來(lái)了，他們自己也不知道如何教學(xué)，也不了解他們所教的科目。 情況非常糟糕，即使我們擁有世界上最多的人口，我們甚至沒(méi)有足夠的半熟練勞動(dòng)力來(lái)建設(shè)我們的基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施。
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Graduating and creating advances in stem fields are totally different. Here in india peope just want a degree and then move on in life for a job . But in other countries they sext these courses cause they are passionate not just cause its cool to study certain topics and subjects which may be useful for them to bag a good job in the future.
從 STEM 領(lǐng)域畢業(yè)和在 STEM 領(lǐng)域取得進(jìn)步是完全不同的兩回事。 在印度，人們只是想要一個(gè)學(xué)位，然后繼續(xù)生活，找一份工作。 但在其他國(guó)家，人們選擇這些課程是因?yàn)樗麄兂錆M熱情，而不僅僅是因?yàn)閷W(xué)習(xí)某些話題和科目很酷，或者這些科目可能有助于他們?cè)谖磥?lái)找到一份好工作。
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Quality is bad. The courses which are taught are outdated. There is little to no exposure to the real world.
質(zhì)量很差。教授的課程都過(guò)時(shí)了。幾乎沒(méi)有接觸到真實(shí)世界的機(jī)會(huì)。
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2.55 million stem graduates out of 1.4 billion people population. Other countries have more stem graduates per capita than us.
So many people easily forget our population numbers are really high. Any factor we rank high on in the global scale, is only because of our insanely high population number. If a country in Africa like Nigeria had our population numbers then even they would rank high in similar numbers like stem graduates, gdp, etc etc.
在 14 億人口中，只有 255 萬(wàn) STEM 畢業(yè)生。其他國(guó)家的人均 STEM 畢業(yè)生人數(shù)比我們多。
很多人很容易忘記我們的人口數(shù)量真的非常龐大。我們?cè)谌蚍秶鷥?nèi)任何排名靠前的因素，都僅僅是因?yàn)槲覀凅@人的人口數(shù)量。如果像尼日利亞這樣的非洲國(guó)家擁有我們的人口數(shù)量，那么即使他們?cè)?STEM 畢業(yè)生、GDP 等類似指標(biāo)上的排名也會(huì)很高。
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Lets say you have not eaten for 10 days. Would you try to plant a tree and wait for it to give fruit so that you can eat ? Or beg someone or get something off the market ? Hope you get your answer
假設(shè)你已經(jīng) 10 天沒(méi)吃飯了。 你會(huì)嘗試種一棵樹(shù)，然后等待它結(jié)果實(shí)來(lái)吃嗎？ 還是會(huì)乞求別人，或者從市場(chǎng)上買點(diǎn)吃的？ 希望你能從中得到答案。
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Societal Norms and Social conditions. Anyone that's educated will want a better life and will seek a better life.
They have seen the pay parity and the difference in the quality of life. He has seen his grandparents and parents sacrifices go to vain by trusting that India will be a developed nation.
Look at how we treat our graduates. Post Graduate is non existent
社會(huì)規(guī)范和社會(huì)條件。任何受過(guò)教育的人都會(huì)想要更好的生活，并會(huì)去追求更好的生活。
他們已經(jīng)看到了薪酬差距和生活質(zhì)量的差異。 他們眼見(jiàn)著祖父母和父母相信印度會(huì)成為發(fā)達(dá)國(guó)家，但他們的犧牲卻付諸東流。
看看我們是如何對(duì)待畢業(yè)生的。 研究生教育幾乎不存在。
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When someone gets better opportunities abroad why would they willingly stay in a place with so much corruption, lawlessness, pollution, etc
當(dāng)有人在國(guó)外獲得更好的機(jī)會(huì)時(shí)，他們?yōu)槭裁匆栽噶粼谝粋€(gè)充斥著腐敗、無(wú)法無(wú)天、污染等等問(wèn)題的地方呢？
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Not enough budget for education and R&D. Numbers convey the true story. A developing nation, according to me , should have more budget in education, compared to developed countries.
Only through proper Education, will we truly be able to move forward.
教育和研發(fā)預(yù)算不足。 數(shù)字說(shuō)明了真相。 在我看來(lái)，一個(gè)發(fā)展中國(guó)家應(yīng)該在教育方面投入比發(fā)達(dá)國(guó)家更多的預(yù)算。
只有通過(guò)適當(dāng)?shù)慕逃?，我們才能真正向前發(fā)展。
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No amount of stem graduates will fix this, where you a country with a ton of cheap labour and the place is filthy, the air, the streets, the rivers. The people obviously are the problem.
再多的 STEM 畢業(yè)生也無(wú)法解決這個(gè)問(wèn)題，因?yàn)槟銈儑?guó)家廉價(jià)勞動(dòng)力過(guò)剩，而且到處都很臟，空氣、街道、河流都是如此。 顯然，問(wèn)題出在人身上。
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Innovation!
Mass producing STEM graduates wont do anything except serve in service industries (for benefit of other countries).
Innovation is born in Universities. Govn needs to invest highly in uni so that any stupid ideas students have get fundings to do research. Doesnt matter if it fails, but what it does is it gives reasearch mindset to students which in turn drives innovations, entrepreneurship and ultimately economic progress.
Look at how China is catching up with USA in terms of innovation. Did they just wake up one day and decided to do innovations?,no. China started investing in their uni and students 30-40 years ago following USA model, and now they have started to rip the benefits.
創(chuàng)新！
大量生產(chǎn) STEM 畢業(yè)生除了讓他們?cè)诜?wù)行業(yè)工作（為其他國(guó)家做貢獻(xiàn)）之外，不會(huì)有任何作用。
創(chuàng)新誕生于大學(xué)。 政府需要大力投資大學(xué)，以便學(xué)生們即使有一些看似愚蠢的想法也能獲得資金進(jìn)行研究。 即使研究失敗了也沒(méi)關(guān)系，重要的是它能培養(yǎng)學(xué)生的科研思維，從而推動(dòng)創(chuàng)新、創(chuàng)業(yè)，并最終促進(jìn)經(jīng)濟(jì)進(jìn)步。
看看中國(guó)在創(chuàng)新方面是如何趕上美國(guó)的。 他們是一天醒來(lái)突然決定搞創(chuàng)新的嗎？ 當(dāng)然不是。 中國(guó)早在 30-40 年前就開(kāi)始效仿美國(guó)模式，投資于大學(xué)和學(xué)生，現(xiàn)在他們開(kāi)始收獲回報(bào)了。
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south asia has some of the most rigid social hierarchies in existence. caste , community, religion, gender.
南亞存在著一些最僵化的社會(huì)等級(jí)制度，包括種姓、社群、宗教、性別等。
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Indian STEM education is generally poor quality outside of IIT and a few sext colleges.
除了印度理工學(xué)院 (IIT) 和少數(shù)幾所精選大學(xué)之外，印度 STEM 教育的質(zhì)量普遍較差。
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They aren't all that good. Most are useless. The few (low even in percentage relative to China) that do leave the country. India was never a meritocracy. You only get caste discrimination either way. Either with affirmative actions like reservations or the other way with caste nepotism.
他們并沒(méi)有那么優(yōu)秀。 大多數(shù)人都是沒(méi)用的。 真正優(yōu)秀的人才（即使按百分比算，相對(duì)于中國(guó)來(lái)說(shuō)也很低）都離開(kāi)了這個(gè)國(guó)家。 印度從來(lái)都不是一個(gè)精英社會(huì)。 你無(wú)論如何都會(huì)遭受種姓歧視。 要么是因?yàn)橄衽漕~這樣的平權(quán)行動(dòng)，要么是因?yàn)榉N姓裙帶關(guān)系。