特朗普的新關(guān)稅：你能負(fù)擔(dān)得起從中國購買的產(chǎn)品嗎？(1)
Trump’s New Tariffs: Can You Afford To Buy From China?
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美國制造還是中國制造并不重要，支持美國寡頭并不是愛國，為家庭做正確的事才是最重要的。
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美國制造還是中國制造并不重要，支持美國寡頭并不是愛國，為家庭做正確的事才是最重要的。
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@phan1182
American or Chinese does not matter. Supporting the American oligarchs is not patriotic. Doing what’s right for family is the most important thing.
美國制造還是中國制造并不重要，支持美國寡頭并不是愛國，為家庭做正確的事才是最重要的。
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You're paying that much for American made because the CEO's need their bonus at the end of the year, and they still make it in China.
你為美國制造支付如此高的價格，是因為CEO們需要在年底拿到獎金，而他們的產(chǎn)品仍然是在中國制造的。
Supporting the blood sucking American oligarchs is not patriotic. You told the truth other Americans don't want to admit or refuse to face the reality. Respect for you man.
支持那些吸血的美國寡頭并不是愛國，你說了其他美國人不想承認(rèn)或拒絕面對的事實。向你致敬，兄弟。
I use to listen to those who called others a traitor for not buying expensive American products. Now I laugh at them. They don't pay my bills or operation costs. Laugh and say screw them!
我曾經(jīng)聽從了那些因為別人不買昂貴的美國產(chǎn)品而稱其為叛徒的人，但現(xiàn)在我嘲笑他們。他們又沒有支付我的賬單或運(yùn)營成本，我會笑著對他們說“去你的”！
If these machines are affordable for you even with tariffs, imagine how much of a game changed they are for the developing world. You gotta give credit to China for making things - from household gadgets to phones to heavy equipment - accessible to the whole world. Farmers in other countries are reaping huge rewards now.
如果這些機(jī)器即使有關(guān)稅對你來說也是負(fù)擔(dān)得起的，想象一下它們對發(fā)展中國家有多大改變。你必須贊揚(yáng)中國，是他們讓從家用小工具到手機(jī)再到重型設(shè)備的東西變得全球可及，其他國家的農(nóng)民現(xiàn)在正從中獲得巨大的收益。
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Also of note, it is NOT the Chinese companies or Chinese government paying the tariffs, that extra cost is handed right to the consumer. It is essentially a new tax the government has imposed on its people.
值得注意的是，支付關(guān)稅的不是中國公司或中國政府，這些額外成本直接轉(zhuǎn)嫁給了消費(fèi)者，這本質(zhì)上是政府對其人民征收的新稅。
Economist here. Every principles of microeconomics student learns this principle: Trade makes everyone better off! Barriers to trade make us worse off.
This is one of the best real-life explanations of this principle. Well done.
我是經(jīng)濟(jì)學(xué)家。每個學(xué)過微觀經(jīng)濟(jì)學(xué)原理的學(xué)生都學(xué)過這個原則：貿(mào)易讓每個人都變得更好！貿(mào)易壁壘讓我們變得更糟。
這是對這一原則最好的現(xiàn)實解釋之一。干得好。
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Half of the country voted for Trump, twice.
Reasoning is not gonna change their small little mind.
這個國家有一半人兩次投票給特朗普。
理性不會改變他們的小小思維。
People always complain about China but without China, many things that we use everyday will be much more expensive than they are today. China also push down the prices of goods coming out from the developing world.
人們總是抱怨中國，但如果沒有中國，我們?nèi)粘Ｊ褂玫脑S多東西會比今天貴得多，中國還壓低了來自發(fā)展中國家的商品價格。
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I've bought guitars from China. Catch the same grief. I don't see them as "counterfeits" because anyone with half a brain can tell it's not a real Gibson. It's a replica. It's not taking money out of Gibson's pockets because in 40 years of playing, I've never justified spending thousands on a guitar. They weren't getting my money anyway. I'm also not going to use a
6000guitartoplayatabarwhereImake100. But, the guitars look good in pictures, play well with a little work and cost about 5% of what a real Les Paul costs. Anyway, love ya Bud! Keep doing what ya do!
我買過中國制造的吉他，也遇到過同樣的指責(zé)。我不認(rèn)為它們是“假貨”，因為任何有點(diǎn)腦子的人都能看出它不是真正的Gibson，它是復(fù)制品。它并沒有讓我從口袋里掏錢購買Gibson，因為在我40年的演奏生涯中，我從未覺得花幾千美元買一把吉他是合理的。反正他們也沒拿到我的錢，我也不打算用一把6000美元的吉他在我賺100美元的酒吧里演奏。但是，這些吉他在照片上看起來不錯，稍加調(diào)整后演奏效果也很棒，而價格大約是真正的Les Paul的5%。無論如何，愛你，兄弟！請繼續(xù)做你的事！
The tariffs will only increase the consumer prices, individuals and companies will keep buying whatever is cheaper and that is usually a no American product. Add that American companies will take advantage of prices increasing to increase their prices on their products
關(guān)稅只會提高消費(fèi)者支付的價格，個人和公司會繼續(xù)購買更便宜的東西，而這通常是非美國產(chǎn)品。此外，美國公司會利用價格上漲的機(jī)會提高他們產(chǎn)品的價格。
Sir you are not a traitor, you have to tailor your budget to ur business that fit your business financially right, I am 100% agree with you. As a Chinese i just wonder when America and China can work together not to against each other that will hurt both citizens. I hate all kind of war.
先生，你不是叛徒，你必須根據(jù)你的業(yè)務(wù)調(diào)整預(yù)算，使其在財務(wù)上適合你的業(yè)務(wù)，我100%贊同你。作為一個中國人，我只是想知道美國和中國什么時候才能合作而不是對抗，因為這只會傷害兩國的公民。我討厭任何形式的戰(zhàn)爭。
It's good to hear someone speaking to reality. This isn't normally the type of content I watch, but you got a sub from me. Thank you for being honest and real. People like YOU are the real patriots. Ignoring reality so one can believe what they want to believe isn't patriotic, it's cognitive dissonance.
很高興聽到有人談?wù)摤F(xiàn)實。這不是我通常會看的內(nèi)容，但你得到了我的訂閱。謝謝你的誠實和真實，像你這樣的人才是真正的愛國者。忽視現(xiàn)實以便相信他們想相信的東西并不是愛國，而是認(rèn)知失調(diào)。
I own a small company that uses a lot of integrated circuits in our products. We buy them from an American distributor but the integrated circuits come from China. We don't have a choice because that's where the distributor gets their products from. I promise you even if it's made in America it still contains Chinese parts.
我擁有一家小公司，我們的產(chǎn)品使用了很多集成電路。我們從美國經(jīng)銷商那里購買，但集成電路來自中國。我們別無選擇，因為這就是經(jīng)銷商獲取產(chǎn)品的地方。我向你保證，即使它是在美國制造的，它也包含中國零件。
My view on this has always been Americans want fair and low pricing on things that just work for their needs without constantly breaking down. American companies refuse to supply the market so the Chinese companies come in and do it. It's simple supply and demand.
我對這個問題的看法一直是美國人希望以公平和低廉的價格買到能滿足他們需求且不會經(jīng)常壞掉的東西，但美國公司拒絕供應(yīng)市場，所以中國公司進(jìn)來了。這是簡單的供需關(guān)系。
European here. I tried to buy European power tools to support the EU economy. Ordered a Metabo bandsaw, a German brand with factories in Germany. When it arrived, I discovered it was made in China. Great bandsaw, perfectly calibrated from the factory, but still... Made in China. Even when we try to buy European to support our economy, we still end up buying Chinese.
我是歐洲人，我試圖購買歐洲的電動工具以支持歐盟的經(jīng)濟(jì)。我訂購了一臺Metabo帶鋸，這是一個在德國有工廠的德國品牌。當(dāng)它到達(dá)時，我發(fā)現(xiàn)它是中國制造的。這是一把很好的帶鋸，出廠時進(jìn)行了完美的校準(zhǔn)，但它仍然是……中國制造。即使我們試圖購買歐洲產(chǎn)品以支持我們的經(jīng)濟(jì)，我們最終還是買了中國產(chǎn)品。
To all the people saying this man is on American he is not he's just a consumer that needs to make sure that he keeps his cost low and if that means buying overseas products so be it. And the people beating up on him are doing so on a phone that's made overseas nothing but hypocrites
對所有說這個人是叛國者的人，他不是，他只是一個需要確保成本低的消費(fèi)者，如果這意味著購買海外產(chǎn)品，那就這樣吧。而那些指責(zé)他的人正在用海外制造的手機(jī)這樣做，他們不過是偽君子。
Hey let me put a little twist on this I am a Canadian small business owner buying from the USA to Canada, lately my dollar is .69 cents to the US dollar, then shipping and cross border importing tax, my fabrication time and my Canadian shipping cost I am neting 5.50 dollars per unit, and now with your new President coming back into power and I mean a Power Trip I will bankrupt in six months, lose everthing because of his so called Tariffs on Canadian goods, works both ways.
嘿，讓我稍微改變一下這個話題，我是一名加拿大的小企業(yè)主，從美國購買產(chǎn)品到加拿大，最近我的加元對美元的匯率是1：0.69，然后加上運(yùn)費(fèi)和跨境進(jìn)口稅，我的制造時間和加拿大運(yùn)費(fèi)，我每單位凈賺5.50美元?，F(xiàn)在隨著你們的新總統(tǒng)重新掌權(quán)，我指的是權(quán)力之旅，我將在六個月內(nèi)破產(chǎn)并失去一切，因為他對加拿大商品的所謂關(guān)稅，這是雙向的。
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I could never afford or justify the expense of an American or Japanese excavator, but I got a Chinese unit for $5000! The price a a riding mower! I did work with it in one day that would;d take me a year with a shovel. Im not ashamed nor do I care what anyone thinks, things in America just cost too much, its not my fault we cannot compete globally as far as pricing goes.
我永遠(yuǎn)買不起或無法證明美國或日本挖掘機(jī)的費(fèi)用是合理的，但我花了5000美元買了一臺中國制造的挖掘機(jī)！這個價格相當(dāng)于一臺騎式割草機(jī)！我用它一天完成了用鏟子需要一年的工作。我并不感到羞恥，也不在乎別人怎么想，美國的東西太貴了，我們在價格上無法參與全球競爭不是我的錯。
I hear you bro, same problem is Australia. Anything made in Australia is 5 to 6 times for expensive.
At the end of the day regular Americans will suffer consequences of these tariffs.
我聽到你聲音了，兄弟，澳大利亞也有同樣的問題，任何澳大利亞制造的東西都要貴5到6倍。
最終，普通的美國人將承受這些關(guān)稅的后果。
Reading these comments give me hope. Honestly most YouTube comments on equipment videos are so far right my head spins. Glad to see you and many of your subscribers are thinking rationally about what is happening right now
閱讀這些評論讓我看到了希望。老實說，大多數(shù)關(guān)于設(shè)備視頻的YouTube評論都太右了，讓我頭暈。很高興看到你和許多訂閱者正在理性地思考當(dāng)前發(fā)生的事情。
Light duty American equipment is basically inaccessible for anyone who wants it for recreational use, its very hard to even start a business using American equipment due to the costs.
輕型美國設(shè)備基本上對任何想用于娛樂用途的人來說都是無法獲得的，由于成本原因，甚至很難用美國的設(shè)備來創(chuàng)業(yè)。
A man of logic! there's nothing wrong with your reasoning. I, too, will buy Chinese made because it works with my budget. And guess what? Quality is great for the price you pay. Unless the people who complain are willing to chip in for the difference for American made, I will continue to buy from China!
你是一個有邏輯的人！你的推理沒有任何問題。我也會購買中國制造的產(chǎn)品，因為它符合我的預(yù)算。你猜怎么著？質(zhì)量對得起你支付的價格。除非那些抱怨的人愿意為美國制造的差價買單，否則我將繼續(xù)從中國購買！
When the politicians and business capitalists are only taking care of their own interests why shouldn't common Americans take care of themsleves ? Chinese products are value for money which help the low income and average American to survive
當(dāng)政客和商業(yè)資本家只關(guān)心自己的利益時，為什么普通美國人不應(yīng)該照顧自己？中國產(chǎn)品物有所值，它能夠幫助低收入和普通的美國人維持生計。
I am using a Chinese phone which cost 250 dollars has almost same feature like a i phone which cost 1250 dollar in my country ..they are making good quality machines and they are cheap ..gone are those days when there was quality issue with their product .
我正在使用一部中國手機(jī)，價格為250美元，功能幾乎與我國售價1250美元的iPhone相同……他們正在制造高質(zhì)量的機(jī)器，而且價格便宜……他們產(chǎn)品質(zhì)量有問題的日子已經(jīng)一去不復(fù)返了。
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People who accused others of being unpatriotic just because they buy affordable foreign alternatives are probably doing the exact same things themselves. Money doesn't grow on trees. Asking regular folks to sacrifice what little they earn for the good of corporate America is insane.
那些因為別人購買負(fù)擔(dān)得起的外國替代品而指責(zé)他們不愛國的人，可能自己也在做同樣的事情。錢不是從樹上長出來的，要求普通人為了美國企業(yè)的利益而犧牲他們微薄的收入是瘋狂的。
Chinese dad here, stumbled upon your video and glad to see ordinary American people are so sensible and family oriented just like us. Good for you for taking care of yourself and your family?
我是一個中國爸爸，偶然看到你的視頻，很高興看到普通美國人也像我們一樣理智和以家庭為重。照顧好自己和家人對你有好處。
6:25 this right here. We've been told capitalism is amazing, it's the only way, it creates competition, free market etc. You can't push this on a society and then complain when they take part in capitalism, which is all about putting in the least amount of money and getting the most amount back. It does not matter if it's from a com...st country or not. Consumers are going to look for the most affordable, good quality product. They're not thinking about the politics of a region. People can't afford to spend more. And these tariffs just mean american brands that use Chinese parts are gonna increase their prices too. These people complaining either think they're gonna be billionaires and only want the rich to benefit from capitalism or they're genuinely just braindead
6:25 你做得對。我們被告知資本主義是驚人的，這是唯一的方式，它創(chuàng)造了競爭，自由市場等等。你不能把這個強(qiáng)加給社會，然后當(dāng)他們參與資本主義時抱怨。資本主義就是投入最少的錢，獲得最多的回報，它是否來自GCZY國家并不重要，消費(fèi)者會尋找最實惠、質(zhì)量好的產(chǎn)品。他們不會考慮一個地區(qū)的政治，人們負(fù)擔(dān)不起更多的花費(fèi)，而這些關(guān)稅只是意味著使用中國零件的美國品牌也會提高價格。這些抱怨的人要么認(rèn)為他們會成為億萬富翁，只希望富人從資本主義中受益，要么他們真的只是腦殘。
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American or Chinese it don't matter you buy what you can afford or what best suits your needs. I love my country but I'm going whats with in my budget, American or not. Thank you sir for keeping your video real.
美國制造還是中國制造并不重要，你買你能負(fù)擔(dān)得起的或最適合你需求的東西即可。我愛我的國家，但我會根據(jù)我的預(yù)算購買，不管是不是美國制造。謝謝你，先生，讓你的視頻保持真實。
As a Chinese exporter, our product prices remain unchanged. The trade terms are FOB (FREE ON BOARD), and I am only responsible for shipping the goods to the ship. Other taxes and shipping costs are borne by the US importer, so I wish you good luck.
作為中國出口商，我們的產(chǎn)品價格保持不變。貿(mào)易條款是FOB（離岸價），我只負(fù)責(zé)將貨物運(yùn)到船上，其他稅費(fèi)和運(yùn)費(fèi)由美國進(jìn)口商承擔(dān)，所以我祝你好運(yùn)。
Tariffs will simply result in higher prices. US consumers will pay the tariffs, Chinese companies will not pay the tariffs. This is a very dumb idea. As economies get more advanced, the residents in that economy get richer. These residents are no longer willing or able to work in low paying, low skilled manufacturing jobs because they do not pay enough. Companies can't pay high wages for work that doesn't add a lot of value, paying a lot for low value work is how you go out of business. As a result, these lower skilled jobs move away to places where people are willing and able to work for lower wages. The only way to change this is to subsidize manufacturing in the US, but that money would have to come from somewhere: namely US taxpayers and consumer. This is a dumb and unsustainable idea: making the many pay to hold on to a handful of jobs that shouldn't be here anyway. The result would just be even higher prices. The idea that these jobs will come back to the US, or that we'd even want that, is ridiculous. Give up this fantasy.
關(guān)稅只會導(dǎo)致價格上漲，美國消費(fèi)者將支付關(guān)稅，中國公司不會支付關(guān)稅。這是一個非常愚蠢的想法。隨著經(jīng)濟(jì)變得更加先進(jìn)，該經(jīng)濟(jì)體的居民會變得更富有。這些居民不再愿意或能夠從事低薪、低技能的制造業(yè)工作，因為這些工作報酬不夠。公司不能為沒有增加太多價值的工作支付高工資，為低價值的工作支付高工資是導(dǎo)致企業(yè)倒閉的原因。因此，這些低技能工作將轉(zhuǎn)移到人們愿意并能夠以較低工資工作的地方。改變這一點(diǎn)的唯一方法是補(bǔ)貼美國的制造業(yè)，但這些錢必須來自某個地方：即美國納稅人和消費(fèi)者。這是一個愚蠢且不可持續(xù)的想法：讓許多人支付費(fèi)用以保住一些本不應(yīng)該在這里的工作，結(jié)果只會是價格更高。認(rèn)為這些工作會回到美國，或者我們甚至希望如此的想法是荒謬的。放棄這個幻想吧。
Same here. I buy Chinese because:
So cheap as compared to American brands.
Readily available online.
Parts are easy to find online.
Repairs or replacement of parts are so easy as compared to branded.
If tools are needed for repairs, it is also available online (Chinese made tools).
Cheap and simple Chinese designs allows me to "improve" or "customize".
Sometimes, it makes sense to buy Chinese or anything cheap. ??
我也一樣，我購買中國產(chǎn)品是因為：
與美國品牌相比非常便宜。
在網(wǎng)上很容易買到。
零件在網(wǎng)上很容易找到。
與品牌產(chǎn)品相比，維修或更換零件非常容易。
如果需要維修工具，網(wǎng)上也有（中國制造的工具）。
便宜且簡單的中國設(shè)計讓我可以“改進(jìn)”或“定制”。
有時候，購買中國產(chǎn)品或任何便宜的東西是有意義的。
Being a Norwegian citizen I migth not be in title to have an opinion on American politics, after all I'm close to be a com...st or socialist in many Americans opinion. But please hear me out.
Who supported Trump financially?
Answer is the richest people or businesses in America.
Who moved their businesses out of America? The very same people or businesses.
Please explain to me how on earth can anyone belive that Trump will go against those who made it possible for him to become president?
Look at his presidential history, how many of his promises have been made.
By buying from China, you just do what the "big money" have done for years, they buy labour where its cheep. No difference.
By the way, I'm not a com...st, not even close.
I end this with a claim, it's way more easy to become a millionaire in Norway than in the USA, and thats a fact
作為一名挪威公民，我可能沒有資格對美國政治發(fā)表意見，畢竟在許多美國人眼中，我?guī)缀跏莻€GCZY者或社會主義者，但請聽我說完。
誰在財政上支持了特朗普？
答案是美國最富有的人或企業(yè)。
誰將他們的企業(yè)搬出了美國？正是這些人或企業(yè)。
請告訴我，怎么會有人相信特朗普會反對那些讓他成為總統(tǒng)的人？
看看他的總統(tǒng)歷史，他兌現(xiàn)了多少承諾。
通過從中國購買，你只是在做“大錢”多年來一直在做的事情，他們在勞動力便宜的地方購買勞動力。你和他們沒有區(qū)別。
順便說一句，我不是GCZY者，甚至不接近。
我會以這樣一個聲明結(jié)束：在挪威成為百萬富翁比在美國容易得多，這是一個事實。
Education is key, man you are well educated, articulate and well informed. Other people speak because that’s how they feel but you spoke from your experience and are sharing with people. To add on what you said, I believe the people calling you names wouldn’t help you if you couldn’t make any money for yourself, they’re just keyboard warriors.
教育是關(guān)鍵，你受過良好的教育，表達(dá)清晰且見多識廣。其他人說話是因為他們的感受，但你是從經(jīng)驗出發(fā)并與人們分享。補(bǔ)充你所說的，我相信那些罵你的人在你無法賺錢時不會幫助你，他們只是鍵盤俠。
As a Canadian, it seems crazy to listen to Americans complain about Canada dumping products into America.
Can you find one thing in your house that is "Made in Canada"? I think it would be tough to do.
But when I look around my Canadian home, there is tons of stuff "Made in America".
Everything from the food in my kitchen, the Yoder smoker on my deck, the All-clad pots and pans, the two Vitamix blenders. My garage is full of "Made in USA" tools.
Plus my wifes new car is made in Huntsville, Alabama.
I may have to start buying from elsewhere if this tariff nonsense with Canada doesn't end soon.
作為一名加拿大人，聽美國人抱怨加拿大向美國傾銷產(chǎn)品似乎很瘋狂。
你能在你家里找到一件“加拿大制造”的東西嗎？我認(rèn)為這很難。
但當(dāng)我環(huán)顧我的加拿大住宅時，到處都是“美國制造”的東西。
從廚房里的食物、露臺上的Yoder煙熏爐、All-clad鍋具、兩臺Vitamix攪拌機(jī)，到車庫里滿滿的“美國制造”的工具。
還有我妻子的新車是在阿拉巴馬州亨茨維爾制造的。
如果與加拿大的這種關(guān)稅鬧劇不盡快結(jié)束，我可能不得不開始從其他地方購買。
I'm an American government teacher now retired after 33 years teaching. I wish I had this at my disposal when I was in the classroom. This is a perfect example of all that tariffs do and don't do. Thanks and I hope you fare well.
我是一名美國政治教師，教了33年后退休。我希望我在課堂上時能有這樣的資源，這是關(guān)稅能做和不能做的一個完美的例子。謝謝，希望你一切順利。
Besides all that, I have a bachelors of science in economics and something protectionists don’t understand is that one of the core justifications in the com...st manifesto was basically The Iron Law Of Wages, which was the conclusion that because there were so many laborers they could never have their wages increase. But if you look at China, from the 1990’s to the 2010’s the wages went up 10 fold. Now there has been a shift to make some things like clothing and do manufacturing in cheaper countries like Vietnam. This cycle continues until the supply and demand curves of labor equal out and only other genuine advantages like education, skill level, technology, automation, or geography remain. So The Iron Law Of Wages has been solidly disproven. The Chinese prices will increase on their own in time. Tariffs only prolong the pain and raise prices on consumers. The Chinese aren’t paying those tariffs, we are.
The only justification for tariffs is to protect an industry for the sake of national security/defense.
除此之外，我擁有經(jīng)濟(jì)學(xué)學(xué)士學(xué)位。保護(hù)主義者不理解的是《共產(chǎn)黨宣言》中的一個核心論點(diǎn)基本上是“工資鐵律”，即由于勞動力過多，他們的工資永遠(yuǎn)不會增加。但如果你看看中國，從1990年代到2010年代，他們的工資增長了10倍。現(xiàn)在，一些制造業(yè)已經(jīng)轉(zhuǎn)移到越南等更便宜的國家。這種循環(huán)會持續(xù)到勞動力供需曲線平衡，只剩下教育、技能水平、技術(shù)、自動化或地理等真正的優(yōu)勢。因此，“工資鐵律”已被徹底推翻。中國的價格會隨著時間的推移自行上漲，關(guān)稅只會延長痛苦并提高消費(fèi)者支付的價格。中國人不會支付這些關(guān)稅，我們會支付。
關(guān)稅的唯一正當(dāng)理由是為了國家安全/國防而保護(hù)某個行業(yè)。
I think most people do not understand tariffs, the person or company that imports the items pays the tax/tariff, not the seller. And a reseller just adds that cost into the final costs. Over 40 years we have had huge problems with manufacturing in the US. From taxes, zoning, rules, regulations, unxs, lawsuits, EPA. Why... Why would any company make something here, when they can go overseas and make it better at half the cost and no BS. We did this to ourselves.
我認(rèn)為大多數(shù)人不理解關(guān)稅，進(jìn)口商品的人或公司而不是賣家會支付稅款/關(guān)稅，而轉(zhuǎn)售商只是將這些成本加到最終的價格中。40多年來，從稅收、分區(qū)、規(guī)則、法規(guī)、工會、訴訟到環(huán)保局，我們在美國的制造業(yè)遇到了巨大的問題。為什么……為什么當(dāng)他們可以去海外以一半的成本制造得更好且沒有麻煩時，所有公司要在這里制造東西？這是我們自己造成的。